In Poland in our constitution we have a rule that political party funding needs to be public. So if there are Russians influencing campaign it needs to be public information so that people can use this information, it wasnt.
Also there is a rule that the NATION rules the country.
If the Russia tries to secretly take over the rule, by bribing people, bot farms and such, then its a breach of said rule and voters need to be aware of such act. They werent aware as Russians do it secretly.
What I understand is that elections will be repeated, not cancelled completely.

This post was edited by Ironfister on Dec 8 2024 09:26am

Was Russia funding Georgescu? Is there any proof of that?

the country was a target of "aggressive hybrid Russian attacks".
When there is a cyberwar sometimes extraordinary measures are needed to fight and resist it.
Its all Russians fault and nobody else to blame.

Read this, three documents were published.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7vee5n5lp0o

Here are key sentences:
The document that talked of a massive online influence campaign to sway the vote in favour of fringe politician Calin Georgescu blamed a "state-sponsored actor".

Another, on attempts to hack electoral websites, talked of links to cyber-crime sites in Russia.
A third file said that Russia was engaged in hybrid war here.

There's no proof lol, and 'proof' is pretty easy to fabricate at this point. They'll find some random FB or Tik Tok posts and extrapolate that, as if those really were the difference maker. It's the same old story. Democracy is good and welcomed, unless the people chose someone that the machine doesn't like. Social media campaigns from Russia may trick a few people, they don't swing wide elections. The MSM will run cover for this and Romania, like many other central Euro states won't be allowed to have leaders that are in anyway critical of pro war/pro NATO.

Same old bullshit they used against Trump

8 years and it failed, Trump won, and the conspirators are now dead men walking. How exactly do you see this ending?

Weak language, BBC grasping at straws. “Alleged” “possible” etc. No proof - all circumstantial. In the end people got to the voting booth and voted uncoerced based on the information that was freely available to anyone. Nobody was forced to vote for Georgescu.

Here is the original document you can read without BBC scaremongering you with “Oogaaboogaa Russkkiesssss”:

https://www.presidency.ro/ro/media/comunicate-de-presa/comunicat-de-presa1733327193

There's no technical evidence of artificial amplification, no proof the accounts were fake rather than real supporters, and no clear distinction between coordinated campaign activity (which is normal) and malicious manipulation.

The fact that this Georgescu guy ran an effective social media campaign and got people to vote for him is quite literally the definition of a democratic election process. Navalny ran something similar in Russia with “smart voting” - purely based on social media. He was not as successful though. Trump and Kamala both ran pretty vivid social media campaigns as you remember.

There will be a new election, and people will decide if they still like Guaresco after all this information went live or not.
The weak point of democracy is that people can vote their way out of it.
Often there is no coming back after, like in Belarus where elections are now faked, so they better think twice.
Its up to Romanians to decide if they prefer to be part of Russia or EU.
There is no third way in eastern Europe.

I think you guys deserved to be communist states

There is no fixing your mentality

This post was edited by El1te on Dec 8 2024 11:57am

He doesn't get it.