stuff from the past

some people move on, others dont

Maybe they should live where people have moved on

im not sure if you guys are familiar with

that's on us. we are the only ones to blame, mainly our government and the latest legal reform that eventually seeped to the high ranks of the IDF, in it's worst forms.

Hamas was never incompetent, he was preparing this thing a long time ago and waited for the right time to move in, and probably kept it hush hush for it's high ranks only till the plan was several days before they invade.

we had our issues ( still do ) with a pretty shity government, shity politicians, key members in the government that advise on millitary issues without understanding one thing about it, etc..

as much as i think Bibi is one of the most intelligent politicians on the planet, his time to go was due, for several reasons but that's not the issue here.

1. the public opinion inside Israel has changed for good in regard of Gaza and the northern border. Hamas brutal attack, beheading victims, raping tourists and Israeli females etc raised the bar to the limit.
the northern border while far more dangerous, is also a threat the IDF will never accept nor do the state itself. it's only a question of timing, might be several days, might be another time.. but it will happen.

2. Gaza eventually is gonna be something like District 9 minus the aliens. they are going to live in cans. the rest of the details are really unimportant to the point, whice is - it won't remain the same, ever.
also a matter of time.

3. the most cliche thing to say is that you learn from those mistakes. so yeah, in this case.. we took it from behind and i don't remember seeing with my eyes such horrors since my service.
you learn BIG TIME from it, even Hamas was surprised of how bad the Israeli border was so exposed at the time they came.

4. Iran will always use proxy's and won't risk a direct war.

final thing - if our state in theory will be at a threat for our existence in this world, we have nukes. plenty. we dealt we a lot of stuff over the years, and we are still dealing with it and doing it fairly good.
the latest invasion will make us better.

Muslim extremist are rather rapey.
I remember the 1997 Indonesia Anti Chinese Riots. We heard so much in Singapore and some of my classmates are Indo Chinese.

My classmates are rich but they heard those Indo Chinese from poorer families got into real shit.
50 to 80 Muslims rape 6 to 8 year old Chinese Indonesian girls . Gang Rape.

i think i know the answer, but is there any talk about a mass evacuation of Gaza? or just continue lockdown?

Currently , we still don’t know the objectives of the war.
The public here demands to bring down Hamas on his knees to the point when he begs to return all captives voluntarily just to get 2 hours free from IDF attacks. Get back the captives and keep on going till the total destruction of the Organization and all who which stands in the way.

think about it.

you are shutting down water, fuel, electricity ( temporary thing ) and flatting out every building Hamas and Jihad ever put their hands on.

what's the first thing those poor ( im not cynical ) civilians are thinking ?

this is it. our day has finally come. we can go to the beach and try to swim or take a boat to the endless sea.
we can wait for Turkey, Saudi Arabia or Egypt ( if you have money - Egypt let's you in right away ) or we can stay in tents or houses from cans.

those are their options, meaning pretty much everything has ended for them because Hamas brought this disaster on them. it's done for good.

when Hamas is out of the equation - they can choose.

a lockdown and an active siege for good isn't likely.

There's nothing in the book disallowing some Israelis to think like the most obtuse fascists, and to present Gaza as a nest absolutely full of terrorists and which has to be razed to the ground.

Even if U.N just said that cutting off water was going against international human rights laws (or similar; check for sources). What is UN after all hu ? Just the entity which allowed Israel to "re-exist" 75 years ago.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Oct 10 2023 12:01pm

beheading babies is in your U.N laws ? shooting woman in their vaginas after raping them ? stealing 4 to 9 years old and shooting thier parents in thier face is in your book of laws ?

fuck your idiot laws.

have you ever been to a massacre ?

id like to see you quet a book of U.N laws when your mother is shot in front of you and dragged away by a truck naked and thrown out on the sand like a dog meat.

those are all - real stuff that took place in this specific invasion.

another thing from my own personal years in the IDF - i know all about how incompetent the U.N are when it comes to doing things in the field, real time. they are as useless as an elbow. those idiots learned from us
basic things that even my son did better when he was 10 years old.

You keep bringing this up mate but no one really cares.
My family cultivates our land in Israel since 1903.