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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Sep 2 2020 02:53pm)
thus it would be an honor for me to cut the atlantic wire


closest thing to an umbilical cord you'll ever get to cut.
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Omg it's incredibly pathetic, i guess they will go above 200k; not much more, theorically ?
"Like UK" seems best way to estimate on my eyes.


looking at excess deaths, they had already surpassed the 200k mark mid august, and are adding around 1k each day currently.

but yeah, his attempts to downplay the scale, to hide the true numbers, are indeed pathetic - as was his whole managing of this crisis.
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that's why americans enjoy the most freedom™, don't get spied on and imprisoned by the millions by their government, don't get killed, violated, and abducted by authorities, and have their government work for them - and not for a group of ultra rich and corporations... OWAIT!
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closest thing to an umbilical cord you'll ever get to cut.


no way, putin could cut it first while saying "your mother"

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looking at excess deaths, they had already surpassed the 200k mark mid august, and are adding around 1k each day currently.

but yeah, his attempts to downplay the scale, to hide the true numbers, are indeed pathetic - as was his whole managing of this crisis.


let me bet he will start to distribute untested vaccine 1 week before election
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Quote (Goomshill @ 1 Sep 2020 18:31)
also followup response:

https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Nancy-Pelosi-got-indoor-hair-care-at-San-15533059.php
https://www.ktvu.com/news/nancy-pelosi-confirms-she-got-hair-done-indoors-in-san-francisco.amp



She's clearly not wearing a mask in the video, so we're supposed to believe her when she claims that the business lied to her about the lockdown restrictions and she was somehow unaware, despite being speaker of the house?


https://thehill.com/homenews/house/514856-pelosi-claims-she-was-set-up-by-san-francisco-salon

Pelosi invokes the Marion Barry “bitch set me up” defense :lol:
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/nancy-pelosis-daughter-releases-letter-from-law-firm-attacking-owner-of-salon-that-pelosi-visited-setup

How to get over a scandal like this:

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Nancy Pelosi: "Who give a shit"


How to not get over a scandal like this:

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In response to press inquiries on the matter, Mr. De Nardo can confirm that he indeed did provide professional stylist services to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (CA) on August 31, 2020, at the “eSalon,” located … in San Francisco, California. Mr. De Nardo, at all times, took all requisite safety measures throughout his appointment with Speaker Pelosi, including sanitation of all service areas and wearing of CDC-recommended protective equipment, and thereafter ensured the premises were similarly sanitized following Speaker Pelosi’s departure.

Mr. DeNardo has worked at eSalon for approximately six (6) years and regularly communicates with the salon owner, Erica Kious. In fact, Mr. DeNardo received advance approval from Ms. Kious the day prior to the appointment during a telephone discussion on August 29, 2020 at 9:26 pm, wherein Mr. DeNardo advised Ms. Kious that he would not proceed with Speaker Pelosi’s appointment without Mr. Kious’ authorization. Ms. Kious took special interest in the appointment during this telephone call, wherein she made several vitriolic and incendiary comments about Speaker Pelosi and her purported responsibility for temporarily suspending operations of Ms. Kious’ business, despite such orders actually being put into place not by Speaker Pelosi, but by Governor Gavin Newsome and San Francisco Mayor London Breed. Ultimately, Ms. Kious authorized Mr. DeNardo to proceed with Speaker Pelosi’s appointment.

This office is in possession of photographs, videos and witness information that Ms. Kious, contrary to her prior statements to the press, has actually been operating her business during the stay-at-home orders and similar executive orders limiting in-store operations since as far back as April 2020. Ms. Kious is seen on photographs and video footage styling various clients’ hair, ignoring social distancing guidelines, and not wearing protective equipment (masks), as recently as a few days prior to Speaker Pelosi’s arrival at eSalon on August 31, 2020. What’s more, Ms. Kious has also been actively encouraging and almost forcing stylists who operate at eSalon to violate such orders for her own financial benefit in the form of receiving lease payments.

The fact that Ms. Kious is now objecting to Speaker Pelosi’s presence at eSalon, and from a simple surface-level review of Ms. Kious’ political leanings, it appears Ms. Kious is furthering a set-up of Speaker Pelosi for her own vain aspirations. Mr. DeNardo’s name has now been dragged through the mud for simply following Ms. Kious’ recommendations; he wishes to move forward with his efforts to earn an income and asks that his privacy be respected during this time.


having a mud flinging match with a... random citizen
okay weird choice but pls continue telling us about how she's breaking the lockdown orders that you're also breaking and how you have video of her not wearing masks just like we have videos of you not wearing masks
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https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/07/31/covid-19-trump-admin-overspent-ventilators-much-500-m/5556989002/

the list price of the ventilator ordered under the contract is $21,000 and was supplied to the Trump administration for $15,000, which the company called a "discount" given the rushed production schedule.

A functionally identical ventilator was delivered to the Obama administration under a 2014 contract for $3,280.




Quote (Goomshill @ 3 Sep 2020 11:02)
https://www.dailywire.com/news/nancy-pelosis-daughter-releases-letter-from-law-firm-attacking-owner-of-salon-that-pelosi-visited-setup

How to get over a scandal like this:



How to not get over a scandal like this:



having a mud flinging match with a... random citizen
okay weird choice but pls continue telling us about how she's breaking the lockdown orders that you're also breaking and how you have video of her not wearing masks just like we have videos of you not wearing masks




They came at her house, not a scandal...


This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Sep 3 2020 03:48am
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They came at her house, not a scandal...


hmm wrong self correctus:

Nancy Pelosi says she fell into a trap. The Chamber announcer said that the salon had told her that she had an exemption to accommodate one client at a time. And that the boss tricked her into filming her getting her hair done.

Sad.
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Sep 3 2020 04:45am)
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/07/31/covid-19-trump-admin-overspent-ventilators-much-500-m/5556989002/

the list price of the ventilator ordered under the contract is $21,000 and was supplied to the Trump administration for $15,000, which the company called a "discount" given the rushed production schedule.

A functionally identical ventilator was delivered to the Obama administration under a 2014 contract for $3,280.

https://i.imgur.com/H6gy49d.jpg


Its not how these contracts work
The US government pays for the R&D on ventilators so the private businesses can develop and produce them for the private market at high prices. They make a profit off the first few years of production going to hospitals. Then it pays off for the government when a few years down the line, they're obligated to sell us those ventilators at a low cost. In the end, the government gets cheap ventilators, the business gets capital. They didn't have ventilators due under the contract for years out, but the government needed them now. So instead of paying the cheap prices like $3280 for a previous contract, we paid above-market prices for extra, rushed production, so there could be ventilators available immediately. That's why they cost more than market value, instead of less than. If the goal was to pinch pennies, they could have just waited until 2025 and made good on the contract. If the goal was to compete with foreign governments for a very limited supply, we could have paid market value. Instead we ordered more than they could produce and took it all.
Which turned out to be a complete waste of money anyway, simply because the doomsday forecasts of the pandemic were completely wrong and excess ventilators were never necessary- the scientists bungled the response.
And then we wound up with the federal government spending billions on both ventilators and field hospitals in NYC at the worst of the pandemic, while both went completely unused because Cuomo sent infected patients to nursing homes instead of hospitals and ventilators never got used up, and as a result we got both higher fatality counts and waste of billions.
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Its not how these contracts work
The US government pays for the R&D on ventilators so the private businesses can develop and produce them for the private market at high prices. They make a profit off the first few years of production going to hospitals. Then it pays off for the government when a few years down the line, they're obligated to sell us those ventilators at a low cost. In the end, the government gets cheap ventilators, the business gets capital. They didn't have ventilators due under the contract for years out, but the government needed them now. So instead of paying the cheap prices like $3280 for a previous contract, we paid above-market prices for extra, rushed production, so there could be ventilators available immediately. That's why they cost more than market value, instead of less than. If the goal was to pinch pennies, they could have just waited until 2025 and made good on the contract. If the goal was to compete with foreign governments for a very limited supply, we could have paid market value. Instead we ordered more than they could produce and took it all.
Which turned out to be a complete waste of money anyway, simply because the doomsday forecasts of the pandemic were completely wrong and excess ventilators were never necessary- the scientists bungled the response.
And then we wound up with the federal government spending billions on both ventilators and field hospitals in NYC at the worst of the pandemic, while both went completely unused because Cuomo sent infected patients to nursing homes instead of hospitals and ventilators never got used up, and as a result we got both higher fatality counts and waste of billions.


Obama administration had agreed to buy for $3,280 each suddenly cost $15,000, it's the same ventilators, so the "R&D" already have been done.
Look like the dutch company properly fucked up your executives. This is a really big margin...

Whole US badly bungled the coronavirus response, especially the executive (i'll pass on the "it will be gone by april"), not scientists ... :lol:

New york has 33/190k total deaths now. And regarding Cuomo:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8350813/Gov-Cuomo-defends-sending-patients-hospitals-nursing-homes-saying-following-Trump.html

I can accept that the rush has a cost, but that 15k was a rape.
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