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Nov 28 2023 07:01am
"Israeli sources claimed that the woman, identified as Fatima Shaheen, 33, from Deheisheh refugee camp in Bethlehem, carried out a stabbing attack and that the soldiers shot her and left her with minor injuries. There are a plethora of instances like this where "minor injuries" result in being crippled for life. how anyone can not see the reality is beyond me. The only response I am hearing is basically "it served him/her/them right".

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 28 2023 07:05am
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Nov 28 2023 07:07am
Quote (ferdia @ 28 Nov 2023 14:51)
it is very difficult to have a debate if you continue to apply double standards and to fixate on one side. I accept you have a side but in all things I would hope for a degree of measure, balance. That boy is standing. the Palestinian girl on the other hand is crippled for life. you did not refute my comment that Israeli's are not chanting from the river to the sea and you are ignoring that it is Israel destroying the Palestinian civilisation/identity, not the other way around (yes, i can acknowledge your point that Hamas wish to do unto Israel what Israel is doing unto them but that is not relevant as they cant).

and i agree that dizzy spoke poorly. but then you said the same thing about the palestinian girl, who is cripped, for life. you cant expect people to behave any different if you act/react in a certain way.


Youre always ignoring the fact that Israel wouldn't go in Gaza in the first place if not for the horrific attack.
Hamas entered Israel they for a suicide mission they went to cities and kibutzim murdering people in their home.
there is no comparison period.

Children might die at war as collateral damage but targeting them is another form of evil.

Quote (ferdia @ 28 Nov 2023 15:01)
https://english.wafa.ps/Pages/Details/135392: "Israeli sources claimed that the woman, identified as Fatima Shaheen, 33, from Deheisheh refugee camp in Bethlehem, carried out a stabbing attack and that the soldiers shot her and left her with minor injuries.

There are a plethora of instances like this where "minor injuries" result in being crippled for life. how anyone can not see the reality is beyond me. The only response I am hearing is basically "it served him/her/them right".


if she wouldn't try to stab she had her leg am I the only one seeing this?
she should say thanks he didn't shot her in the head it would still be considered as self defense.


Edit regarding the kid, he might be physically fine but mentaly?

This post was edited by Many_Names on Nov 28 2023 07:11am
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Nov 28 2023 07:12am
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Youre always ignoring the fact that Israel wouldn't go in Gaza in the first place if not for the horrific attack.
Hamas entered Israel they for a suicide mission they went to cities and kibutzim murdering people in their home.
there is no comparison period.

Children might die at war as collateral damage but targeting them is another form of evil.



if she wouldn't try to stab she had her leg am I the only one seeing this?
she should say thanks he didn't shot her in the head it would still be considered as self defense.


Edit regarding the kid, he might be physically fine but mentaly?

Oh no did someone hurt his feelings? Downgraded from brutally beaten to insulted now?
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Nov 28 2023 07:19am
Quote (Many_Names @ 28 Nov 2023 14:07)
Youre always ignoring the fact that Israel wouldn't go in Gaza in the first place if not for the horrific attack.
Hamas entered Israel they for a suicide mission they went to cities and kibutzim murdering people in their home.
there is no comparison period.
Children might die at war as collateral damage but targeting them is another form of evil.
if she wouldn't try to stab she had her leg am I the only one seeing this?
she should say thanks he didn't shot her in the head it would still be considered as self defense.
Edit regarding the kid, he might be physically fine but mentaly?

Gaza has been a prison for decades, and Israel is deeply involved in what happened here, including the Hamas attack, since Israel actively sponsored Hamas years ago over the LPO.

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Nov 28 2023 07:27am
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Gaza has been a prison for decades, and Israel is deeply involved in what happened here, including the Hamas attack, since Israel actively sponsored Hamas years ago over the LPO.


Let’s normalise October 7 attack because “Gaza is an open prison” :bonk:
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Nov 28 2023 07:32am
Quote (WhiteSouned @ 28 Nov 2023 14:27)
Let’s normalise October 7 attack because “Gaza is an open prison” :bonk:


I am condemning both, and I think the world has other priorities than this crap.



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Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 28 2023 01:07pm)
Youre always ignoring the fact that Israel wouldn't go in Gaza in the first place if not for the horrific attack.
Hamas entered Israel they for a suicide mission they went to cities and kibutzim murdering people in their home.
there is no comparison period.

Children might die at war as collateral damage but targeting them is another form of evil.



if she wouldn't try to stab she had her leg am I the only one seeing this?
she should say thanks he didn't shot her in the head it would still be considered as self defense.


Edit regarding the kid, he might be physically fine but mentaly?


lets dial it back a bit.

is there any official account of this woman's trial, she stabbed someone ? what was the court ruling, and how, given israel sources explicitly stated that she suffered a minor injury, is she now a cripple? she is a mother of a 4 year old. does all this not strike you as odd? the other day you spoke of amazing conditions of prisoners in Israel, and that israeli's were angry that prisoners led a life of luxury. I am reading there are over 9000 prisoners in the last 3 months alone, and family members are not allowed to visit. Were prisons lying idle before then? how can conditions be good if there is a sudden influx of +9000? this is not logical. we have 4500 people in prison on any given day in our country, and we have no room for another 9000. By all accounts the womans injuries were neglected and I am getting the distinct impression that this was willful, noting this is not an isolated incident.

all of this (as i wave my hand around) is complete shit.

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 28 2023 07:43am
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Nov 28 2023 07:34am
Quote (WhiteSouned @ Nov 28 2023 09:27am)
Let’s normalise October 7 attack because “Gaza is an open prison” :bonk:


Normalize what exactly, Israel lied about most of what happened, do they even have a confirmed death toll yet?
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Nov 28 2023 07:37am
U.S Media gaffes:

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Nov 28 2023 07:46am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Nov 28 2023 03:34pm)
Normalize what exactly, Palestinians lied about most of what happened, do they even have a confirmed death toll yet?


I fixed that one for you.
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