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Sep 11 2021 08:54pm
Quote (excellence @ 11 Sep 2021 19:47)
the individual mandate is constitutional per roberts. he will get Kavanaugh to agree with him. 5-4 mandate is upheld


Biden hasn't chosen to write the EO to unwrite Trump's EO that removed the individual mandate, afaik. I think it'd be interesting to watch Biden lose the support of the working poor overnight if he tried though.
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Sep 11 2021 08:59pm
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Biden hasn't chosen to write the EO to unwrite Trump's EO that removed the individual mandate, afaik. I think it'd be interesting to watch Biden lose the support of the working poor overnight if he tried though.


That was part of the Trump tax cuts...not an EO.
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Sep 11 2021 09:17pm
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That was part of the Trump tax cuts...not an EO.


What are you talking about? Are we on the same subject?

Section 2: https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2017/01/24/2017-01799/minimizing-the-economic-burden-of-the-patient-protection-and-affordable-care-act-pending-repeal

What the literal fuck are you on about, seriously? This was his first EO.
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Sep 11 2021 09:26pm
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What are you talking about? Are we on the same subject?

Section 2: https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2017/01/24/2017-01799/minimizing-the-economic-burden-of-the-patient-protection-and-affordable-care-act-pending-repeal

What the literal fuck are you on about, seriously? This was his first EO.


The Trump Tax Cuts reduced the penalty to zero.
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Sep 11 2021 09:27pm
Quote (thundercock @ 11 Sep 2021 20:26)
The Trump Tax Cuts reduced the penalty to zero.


Read the EO. I provided you the information. Can you not read?
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Sep 11 2021 09:31pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Sep 11 2021 08:27pm)
Read the EO. I provided you the information. Can you not read?


You were wondering why Biden wouldn't "undo" Trump's EO. I gave you the reason why: it's a law passed by Congress.

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/53348
(last sentence of the first paragraph)
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Sep 11 2021 09:36pm
Quote (thundercock @ 11 Sep 2021 20:31)
You were wondering why Biden wouldn't "undo" Trump's EO. I gave you the reason why: it's a law passed by Congress.

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/53348
(last sentence of the first paragraph)


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That was part of the Trump tax cuts...not an EO.


I showed you the EO. Which passed first? Immediately upon action of the EO, the individual mandate was reduced to zero. I ask again, why has Biden not unwritten the EO?

It's a serious question. If there's an in-force EO, a Congressional repeal is meaningless, because the in-force EO still removes the ability to reinstate the individual mandate.
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Sep 11 2021 09:36pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Sep 11 2021 10:36pm)
I showed you the EO. Which passed first? Immediately upon action of the EO, the individual mandate was reduced to zero.


The individual mandate was not reduced to zero. It was an order to give as much leeway as possible to waivers, not an order to eliminate the mandate. Did you read your own link?
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 11 Sep 2021 20:36)
The individual mandate was not reduced to zero. It was an order to give as much leeway as possible to waivers, not an order to eliminate the mandate. Did you read your own link?


I did, and I benefitted from it. It reduced it to zero. Real world effect, not your communist utopia.
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Sep 11 2021 09:40pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Sep 11 2021 08:36pm)
I showed you the EO. Which passed first? Immediately upon action of the EO, the individual mandate was reduced to zero. I ask again, why has Biden not unwritten the EO?

It's a serious question. If there's an in-force EO, a Congressional repeal is meaningless, because the in-force EO still removes the ability to reinstate the individual mandate.


Biden hasn't unwritten the EO because it's no longer relevant due to the Trump Tax Cuts. Why is this so difficult to understand? If the mandate is zero, no enforcement mechanism is required.
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