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Aug 11 2016 08:34am
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Aug 11 2016 08:57am
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It is hard to ignore Russia when we have had a recent war with them and lost (Georgia), they're invading their neighbors (Ukraine), and they're sheltering ISIS from attacks in the Syrian Civil War ( http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/10/01/444953234/syrian-opposition-says-russian-airstrikes-arent-targeting-isis ) to go after Assad's enemies instead.

We aren't using Russia as a scapegoat, they are an increasingly desperate military super power whose economy is on the brink of collapse.

http://i64.tinypic.com/n177yu.jpg

And considering Putin's unwillingness to obey democratic conventions or his own Constitution, instead choosing to rewrite it to make himself Tsar, and his increasing use of military abroad to keep support throughout a deepening recession, he is someone that needs to have a close eye kept on him at all times.

Not sure if you've noticed, the Cold War is back.

The leaks so far are undamaging to HRC, but I can see why Putin wants to weaken HRC, because that means a weakened US to deal with.


I understand the incentive for Russia to want to try and destabilize the West, and I also think it is very disturbing to consider how a foreign country could have a dramatic influence on a domestic election, but there's been more and more buzz about how Russia might actually not be behind any of these DNC leaks.

It looks like it might be just be WikiLeaks. But who knows. Of course, WikiLeaks and Assange have their own agenda, and that, too, should be considered. I just find it strange that instead of accepting responsibility for breaking rules or behaving in a corrupt manner, the DNC and Clinton's camp blame Russia. Now, Russia could be behind it, but we just don't have the evidence to make that link yet.

It just seems easy to me to blame some scary outside actor instead of accepting fault. But who knows, there are lots of bizarre things happening nowadays.
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Aug 11 2016 09:13am
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What I'm wondering is.... What do people see in Trump? What compels you to want to vote for him? I can honestly understand some answers like "He takes a stance on immigration" or "He acknowledges the horrible trade relations between the US and other countries". He has that whole bullshit head-strong, alpha male, "gonna say whatever" mindset to him. Which insecure and omega bitches gobble up.

But, I'm wondering what OTHER qualities he has that earns your vote.

Because, as of now (should never begin a sentence with "because"), I'd rather vote for a barking seal.

He's all bark and no bite. How many times can you proclaim you will have Mexico pay for a wall alonng the southern border without having any real plan on how to accomplish it? How many times can someone pompously declare they're good at something with no foundation?

"I'm good at making deals." - Trump

Well, okay, depending on who you're negotiating against.

"I'm the last person to ever, EVER, last person to ever use nuclear weapons." - Trump

Good way to lay your cards down on the table for everyone to see. I.e., inability to understand strategic leverage.


A single word in your entire post led me to believe that you are voting for the demokkkratic party.

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Aug 11 2016 09:16am
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I understand the incentive for Russia to want to try and destabilize the West, and I also think it is very disturbing to consider how a foreign country could have a dramatic influence on a domestic election, but there's been more and more buzz about how Russia might actually not be behind any of these DNC leaks.

It looks like it might be just be WikiLeaks. But who knows. Of course, WikiLeaks and Assange have their own agenda, and that, too, should be considered. I just find it strange that instead of accepting responsibility for breaking rules or behaving in a corrupt manner, the DNC and Clinton's camp blame Russia. Now, Russia could be behind it, but we just don't have the evidence to make that link yet.

It just seems easy to me to blame some scary outside actor instead of accepting fault. But who knows, there are lots of bizarre things happening nowadays.

well Obama said Russia is nothing to worry about after failed candidate Mitt Romney said Russia would be our #1 geopolitical foe
"The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.” - Pres Obama
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Aug 11 2016 09:28am
Whether the Cold War ended or not will become apparent if Russia ever takes a shot at the Baltic states. Right now they're just taking the territories in the Middle East and Eurasia that no first world power really wants. Syria? Ukraine? Its almost as if Putin has never played a game of Risk in his life...
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Aug 11 2016 09:35am
Calling out obama & hillary on ISIS seems like the first sign trump is getting his campaign back in order and harnessing the media circus over him instead of getting skewered by it. If they will make his every wild statement into a news cycle, he can use it offensively by attacking hilldog with something that doesnt make him look bad. And its clearly intentional: he doubled down on it unlike his gaffes. The media must be tying themselves in knots.

Its a decent move but I think not a great one, theres a problem sticking mud when it requires some critical thinking. Hes got the one liner, but you have to make the leap that obama's foreign policy created the power vacuums that created ISIS. Even if the attack is well founded and damning, its takes a jump for most people
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Aug 11 2016 10:02am
I agree that it could be pretty remarkably effective in the hands of a halfway competent candidate, but what we've got instead is radio hosts desperately trying to make him sound sane while he goes ahead and make sure that moderates tune out because he's being ridiculous again:

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Calling out obama & hillary on ISIS seems like the first sign trump is getting his campaign back in order and harnessing the media circus over him instead of getting skewered by it. If they will make his every wild statement into a news cycle, he can use it offensively by attacking hilldog with something that doesnt make him look bad. And its clearly intentional: he doubled down on it unlike his gaffes. The media must be tying themselves in knots.

Its a decent move but I think not a great one, theres a problem sticking mud when it requires some critical thinking. Hes got the one liner, but you have to make the leap that obama's foreign policy created the power vacuums that created ISIS. Even if the attack is well founded and damning, its takes a jump for most people


You strike me as a person in extreme denial.

Trump has been nothing but PLAYED by the media. Some idiots like to live in a fantasy world where Trump is some top-dog and he knows how to manipulate the media, yadda-yadda. Nuh-uh. I live and work between two cities: Washington and Baltimore. The mere mention of Trump is met with laughter or disdain.

Hillary is going to be the next president. It pains me to say it due to what I know of security clearances and how the government operates. But, get ready to hail to the Hillary.

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You strike me as a person is extreme denial.

Trump has been nothing but PLAYED by the media. Some idiots like to live in a fantasy world where Trump is some top-dog and he knows how to manipulate the media, yadda-yadda. Nuh-uh. I live and work between two cities: Washington and Baltimore. The mere mention of Trump is met with laughter or disdain.

Hillary is going to be the next president. It pains me to say it due to what I know of security clearances and how the government operates. But, get ready to hail to the Hillary.


You strike me as oblivious to everything I've consistently posted about here for years. Have I ever said Trump is likely to win? Of course hillary is almost certainly going to win. If trump knew how to manipulate the media he wouldnt have gotten skewered these past few weeks and he wouldnt need to get back on track like I just said. Did you know there are usernames and avatars on PARD? Its not 4chan, you can connect me with all those posts where I talked about how HRC is running the same Rove dirty tricks campaign she did in '08 and pulling no punches, scripting obvious baits like the khans and colluding with the DNC and media establishments to exercise corrupt influence to get elected

Obama and Hillary created ISIS, its true. ISIS is not some shadowy secret organization financed by a saudi prince that has only a few dozen true members. ISIS was a popular movement by a whole population. Obama's bungled handling of the arab spring and iraq withdrawal created power vacuums while handing over heavy weaponary and mechanization to hardened sunni jihadis who stormed up iraq liberating sunnis from prisons and massacring the shiites and other minorities, who then with the collapse of libya due to our meddling and influx of jihadis from other arab spring states like tunisia, established a foothold in syria and got an intractable conflict which would have toppled assad and creates a full blown caliphate had russia not intervened. Meanwhile the obama administration in denial doctored papers and twisted reports to downplay the threat of ISIS while hillary championed the arab spring interventions with a mythical narrative of freedom loving secular arabs establishing western style democracies. Whoops, those strongmen dictators were actually holding populations of religious fanatics in check and you unleashes a sectarian war, nice job breaking it

Yoy could say hillary holds the responsibility for her hawkishness and media spin and that obama really didnt agree with her when he went along and was stuck between a iraq and a hard place on withdrawal, but the reality is that he was president and his legacy is the sum of his calls, no matter whos idea it was, obamas, hillarys, kerrys, generals, w/e. Its like saying GWB wasnt responsible for Iraq because it was cheney fault
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Aug 11 2016 10:23am
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You strike me as oblivious to everything I've consistently posted about here for years. Have I ever said Trump is likely to win? Of course hillary is almost certainly going to win. If trump knew how to manipulate the media he wouldnt have gotten skewered these past few weeks and he wouldnt need to get back on track like I just said. Did you know there are usernames and avatars on PARD? Its not 4chan, you can connect me with all those posts where I talked about how HRC is running the same Rove dirty tricks campaign she did in '08 and pulling no punches, scripting obvious baits like the khans and colluding with the DNC and media establishments to exercise corrupt influence to get elected

Obama and Hillary created ISIS, its true. ISIS is not some shadowy secret organization financed by a saudi prince that has only a few dozen true members. ISIS was a popular movement by a whole population. Obama's bungled handling of the arab spring and iraq withdrawal created power vacuums while handing over heavy weaponary and mechanization to hardened sunni jihadis who stormed up iraq liberating sunnis from prisons and massacring the shiites and other minorities, who then with the collapse of libya due to our meddling and influx of jihadis from other arab spring states like tunisia, established a foothold in syria and got an intractable conflict which would have toppled assad and creates a full blown caliphate had russia not intervened. Meanwhile the obama administration in denial doctored papers and twisted reports to downplay the threat of ISIS while hillary championed the arab spring interventions with a mythical narrative of freedom loving secular arabs establishing western style democracies. Whoops, those strongmen dictators were actually holding populations of religious fanatics in check and you unleashes a sectarian war, nice job breaking it

Yoy could say hillary holds the responsibility for her hawkishness and media spin and that obama really didnt agree with her when he went along and was stuck between a iraq and a hard place on withdrawal, but the reality is that he was president and his legacy is the sum of his calls, no matter whos idea it was, obamas, hillarys, kerrys, generals, w/e. Its like saying GWB wasnt responsible for Iraq because it was cheney fault


Obama was probably the only person against invading Iraq and creating the power vaccuum.
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