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Aug 3 2024 05:05pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 3 2024 11:28pm)
The moderate right would quickly get the wider public on their side if they could produce results. But if institutional, pro-migration intertia slows them down, they won't be able to. And then, the establishment forces will gloat that "they made empty promises" and that "cozying up to the far right doesn't solve any problems, only strengthens the extremists".

The time for putting pressure from the streets on the government was during the last 5 years, when it could have actually accomplished something. Now, with Labour holding an ironclad supermajority for the next 5 years (based on a measly 33% of the vote), that's just not a workable strategy.

The tldr is that the UK is completely fucked. They miiiiight get one last chance if Reform UK wins an outright majority in 5 years, but that's rather unlikely. After that point, demographic change will become so entrenched that there's no more going back. So yeah, the UK is completely and utterly fucked.


i agree, they are completely screwed

maybe you remember me saying "you are not voting your way out of this" and its confirmed again

the way you put it makes a literal overthrow in the very near future the only option

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The problem with what you're saying is that you have to bring tens of millions of people with you in the court of public opinion.

Punching random black pedestrians, doing nazi salutes, racist chanting and attacking the police, turns away the very same people who are sympathetic to the underlying cause.

If this event is going to lead to meaningful change in policy, it needs mass public support. Even Tommy Robinson knew this, which is why he has specifically told his supporters to not do any of the thuggery you are totally fine with.


the things you describe are not even in the same realm as the migrant atrocities the people have to endure

in the end this minor bullshit will not stop people from uniting against those, who allow little girls to get massacred in broad daylight

if you are a father thinking about joining the protests to protect your children a handful of dipshits wont stop you

tommy robinson says what he has to say to stay out of prison

standing up for yourself against a state that refuses to do its job is not thuggery
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Aug 3 2024 06:03pm
You can only ignore the will of the people for so long. Most Europeans have been against uncontrolled immigration from ME, Africa, etc for more than a few years, and they're largely ignored, labeled racists, whatever. This is the natural progression, this flare up will eventually die out, but you will see more and more of these, especially if things get more challenging economically.
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You can only ignore the will of the people for so long. Most Europeans have been against uncontrolled immigration from ME, Africa, etc for more than a few years, and they're largely ignored, labeled racists, whatever. This is the natural progression, this flare up will eventually die out, but you will see more and more of these, especially if things get more challenging economically.


Imho, the powers that be are fully aware that the tides will turn against open borders and unlimited third world immigration sooner rather than later, and have been for quite some years. Imho, they're simply trying to flood Europe and North America with as many migrants as possible before then and create a fait accompli. Which is imho also the reason why they went to such great lengths to get Trump out of the White House in 2020, and seem determined to pull every dirty trick in the book again in 2024. Kamala defeating Trump in 2024 would mean another 10-15 million additional migrants.

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Aug 7 2024 04:42am
That went well Starmer. A one month run and the country wants your blood :thumbsup:

Almost like a special gang up on me operation :thumbsup:

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Quote (Djunior @ 7 Aug 2024 12:42)
That went well Starmer. A one month run and the country wants your blood :thumbsup:

Almost like a special gang up on me operation :thumbsup:

#FarRightThugsUnite

Your truly was stressing here, in this very thread, just one month ago, that Starmer/Labour don't actually have a strong mandate despite their overwhelming parliamentary majority.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 7 2024 09:58pm)
Your truly was stressing here, in this very thread, just one month ago, that Starmer/Labour don't actually have a strong mandate despite their overwhelming parliamentary majority.


You didn't get my post
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 7 2024 09:58pm)
Your truly was stressing here, in this very thread, just one month ago, that Starmer/Labour don't actually have a strong mandate despite their overwhelming parliamentary majority.


And yes, noticed that
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 7 2024 09:58pm)
Your truly was stressing here, in this very thread, just one month ago, that Starmer/Labour don't actually have a strong mandate despite their overwhelming parliamentary majority.


The core issue here is that the people aint happy, they've had enough. Don't watch MSM coverage of the riots the only thing they do is telling people that the Southport stabber wasn't an immigrant because born in the UK, the protesters are far right nazi scum and so on.

Listen to what the ordinary people say, working class people, parents, pensioners and it paints a whole different picture. Two quick examples



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Aug 8 2024 05:30am
three taylor swift concerts in vienna cancelled, multiple islamic terrorists arrested

they allegedly planned driving into people and a bomb attack

the ringleader has stolen chemicals from his job, you can never trust these cavemen even when they look like they integrated
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Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Aug 8 2024 06:30am)
three taylor swift concerts in vienna cancelled, multiple islamic terrorists arrested

they allegedly planned driving into people and a bomb attack

the ringleader has stolen chemicals from his job, you can never trust these cavemen even when they look like they integrated


The migrants should be held to a higher legal standard. Whatever is more severe between their country of origin and their resettlement country. Stoning is in order
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