Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 3 2024 11:28pm)
The moderate right would quickly get the wider public on their side if they could produce results. But if institutional, pro-migration intertia slows them down, they won't be able to. And then, the establishment forces will gloat that "they made empty promises" and that "cozying up to the far right doesn't solve any problems, only strengthens the extremists".
The time for putting pressure from the streets on the government was during the last 5 years, when it could have actually accomplished something. Now, with Labour holding an ironclad supermajority for the next 5 years (based on a measly 33% of the vote), that's just not a workable strategy.
The tldr is that the UK is completely fucked. They miiiiight get one last chance if Reform UK wins an outright majority in 5 years, but that's rather unlikely. After that point, demographic change will become so entrenched that there's no more going back. So yeah, the UK is completely and utterly fucked.
i agree, they are completely screwed
maybe you remember me saying "you are not voting your way out of this" and its confirmed again
the way you put it makes a literal overthrow in the very near future the only option
Quote (dro94 @ Aug 3 2024 11:37pm)
The problem with what you're saying is that you have to bring tens of millions of people with you in the court of public opinion.
Punching random black pedestrians, doing nazi salutes, racist chanting and attacking the police, turns away the very same people who are sympathetic to the underlying cause.
If this event is going to lead to meaningful change in policy, it needs mass public support. Even Tommy Robinson knew this, which is why he has specifically told his supporters to not do any of the thuggery you are totally fine with.
the things you describe are not even in the same realm as the migrant atrocities the people have to endure
in the end this minor bullshit will not stop people from uniting against those, who allow little girls to get massacred in broad daylight
if you are a father thinking about joining the protests to protect your children a handful of dipshits wont stop you
tommy robinson says what he has to say to stay out of prison
standing up for yourself against a state that refuses to do its job is not thuggery