Self-policing is a hell of a drug.



You should look it up, they're alleging the unsecure documents revealed a gun smuggling operation out of that benghazi embassy, and that once in the wild it blew their cover and got the people there killed.
Its a stretch beyond a stretch, but its a wrongful death suit being brought in a court of law, so reporting it would be a bare minimum if they can make such a circus out of trying to crucify police officers who had no chance of being found guilty either.



The same confusion hillary propped up over the syrian conflict as the arab spring unfolded: There are no secular freedom-loving rebel seeking to establish a western-style democracy. That was the same sort of media spun myth as WMDs for casus belli, except this time theres good reason to believe it really was an intelligence failure and utter incompetence more than the product of willful deception and conspiracy. Its a sectarian conflict and if the sunnis actually did topple assad, you'd either have an outright ISIS caliphate or just some watered down version thereof. So when you run guns to the rebels, you're running guns to ISIS.



People aren't condemning him for being father to a mass murderer, they're condemning him for being a homophobic influence who said allah would deal with the evil faggot scum.
He indoctrinated his son into virulent homophobia, and what degree of responsibility he shares doesn't have to be the same as legal culpability when it comes to negative perceptions
Being an ardent hillary supporter who gets sat down right behind her on the camera though? Thats a scandal.



Sounds more like you heard what you wanted to hear. He didn't kick any babies out of any gatherings - he made a joke while she was leaving of her own accord, and it looked bad on camera when you couldn't see her reaction as she was halfway through the door, but yellow journalists skewered him on it. He did say gun activists would help oppose hillary if she starts trying to repeal the second amendment, but made no implicit or explicit threat of violence, only a reference to their sizeable political clout. Trying to frame his comments in some slanderous narrative is again irresponsible journalism. Its like saying we can't talk about the gun lobby without qualifying our every statement with "But we mean this in a purely political, non-violent way". That sort of PC doubletalk is stupid and unnecessary and has no place in intellectual discourse. Just because you're talking about people defending the second amendment doesn't mean you're talking about shooting people.



He rode a wave of anti-estalishment populism to defeat empty suits who read from a teleprompter and used the same scripted shilling that has sold out our country to corrupt interests. People voted not because they liked trump, but because he made the other candidates look worse. Rubiobot and the rest weren't out there to construct innovative new socio economic plans that would save the country, they were the bog standard staged photo op candidates trying to game the election so they could further their cynical partisan political goals and reward their corporate masters who bought and paid for them.

Whats happening now is that he's run smack into the brick wall called Karl Rove. Hillary Clinton, like in 2008, plays dirty and has the full establishment backing instead of the fractious tentative support other candidates get before the dust is settled. So you've got a candidate who's getting T-boned by every dirty rove tactic in the book and a media lapping it up on HRC's behalf. All trumps populism and showmanship is worthless when faced with a candidate who can remain out of a sight and spend all day smearing him with what sticks, because she gets to choose what sticks now, something the RNC field didn't have going for them.

I saw something similar happen when jesse ventura sat between coleman & horatio hornblower and made them look like the partisan empty suits they were. What jesse didn't have to face was an offensive campaign well prepared for him and using all the influence in the world to drag him through the mud on 24/7 news cycles, so he won by a sliver. Was the body "not serious about the election and governing"? Sure heard that many a time that fall. Now I get to stop and wait for the light rail to choo-choo past if I drive downtown



And funnily enough, jesse was the only other year I didn't vote a straight ticket iirc, now I'm going to do it again.
Anyone voting for the female version of George W. Bush after we saw what 8 years of corrupt big money puppetry and militarism does to a country is showing fondling mad juggerment

Goomshill and pollster should do a pard debate

I have to admit, I have fondlingly mad juggerment.

So are you voting for Trump?

It would be at the grown up table -- no coloring books.

I've been pushing for us to reinstall D2 and have a PARD ironman for this election, 4 players represent Trump (barbs, pallys, necros, druids only), 4 players represent hillary (zons, sorcs, sins only)
But the problem is, according to pollster the 2016 general election is still between marco rubio and hillary clinton



probably. Possibly not. Pragmatism dictates I'd neither abstain nor vote for stein or johnson even if they're more closely aligned, and they're still far off nutters anyway
like the rest of america already noticed, its the lesser of two evils this year

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She was cleared of being criminally complicit. He said explicitly that she was extremely careless and negligent, and that claims she made to the public were not true.

Her wealth was made laundering influence for cash. There will be no systemic change in Washington with her in office. Congress will oppose her categorically because structurally they're compelled to do so.

We do need primary reform, but there's nothing exciting to look forward to in a Clinton presidency. I don't think she can win more than 4 years.

she was cleared criminal activity for this little issue, but was laid out as a flat-out liar, unreasonable, and extremely reckless

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agreed - this is no 'father is held accountable for the sins of the son' scenario.
the father has plenty of anti-american anti-gay anti-civilization hatred flowing from his veins
fitting he's seated right behind the democrat nominee



voting for a woman because shes a woman is going to be the only achievement most of the posters here will ever claim on their CV. nevermind both the RNC and DNC tried to stick us with Bushclinton IV*

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