Quote (bogie160 @ Aug 10 2016 08:32pm)
Being technologically incompetent is pretty damning in a technologically demanding world.
The main concern though should be geared towards the next 4-8 years. Hillary can't push anything through a Republican held Congress. Why do we want more dysfunctional government?
Considerations made under the threat of extortion aren't something I'm willing to consider. The Congress is why the government is dysfunctional in the first place. They haven't showed up to work since 2008.
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 10 2016 08:32pm)
it was in the news for a couple hours that she was being sued for wrongful death by families of slain servicemen who she slandered and called liars, more leaks pop out showing she was breaking national security laws and lying about it during sworn testimony, campaign laws, colluding and corruptly selling influence, and then hinting at conspiracies to murder and running guns to syrian rebels aka ISIS via benghazi, that and giving a speech with a mass murderer's homophobic inspiration father standing a few feet away
none of that is getting the kind of negative news cycles that trump is getting for saying tom-ato instead of to-mato
She was cleared of wrong doing by the FBI for the emails. I have yet to hear what national security secrets were leaked or what damage was incurred by her technological mistakes.
I'm not sure how she can be responsible for a serviceman's death, she isn't in charge of troops, but I'd be interested in hearing about this. Probably an upset family being pimped out by television lawyers.
I'm not going to blame the US government for hedging bets in the Syrian conflict and supporting the FSA and their allies. You seem to be confused about the Syrian conflict, the rebels are fighting ISIS, as was the Turkish military, while the Russians interfered with that, attack the rebels, and prop up Assad since his powerbase at home is so diminished, while largely ignoring ISIS.
Corruption of blood was something deliberately rejected by the Founding Fathers during the formation of this country. That man is in no way guilty for crimes of his son. He is allowed to vote, go to a political rally. etc. If you did something terrible your father wouldn't be banned by the body politic. Also, Ted Nugent supports Trump, so that balances this and then some.
I didn't hear Trump say anything about fruit commonly mistaken for vegetables. I did hear him say he sacrificed more than service families who've lost a member, and make a reference to gun activists taking matters into their own hands if elections don't go their way. He kicked a baby out of a gathering which is not very classy.
He also rode a wave of hype to defeat several people who were serious about winning this election and governing, and it was a profoundly selfish thing to do, considering he never had any intention of hiring staffers in every state to see who is voting where and how they voted before and why. He isn't doing anything required to win a presidential election, when others were willing and able to do this. He squandered a presidential election and is now trying to do his homework the night before and phone in a win.
This is a dichotomy. Hillary Clinton vs. Donald Trump. One of these candidates is deathly serious about winning and governing, and one hasn't given either much thought. Anybody supporting Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton is showing profoundly bad judgement.
After seeing how Trump handles pressure and the constant cascade of failure coming from his campaign I am solidly pro-Clinton. Even if something very damning came out about her I think the country would just call the entire process a mulligan and call for another set of nominations and primaries. Even the GOP would rebel.
/e just read about the wrongful death suit...more Benghazi stuff. You can't go to court with zero evidence and expect anything to happen.
This post was edited by Skinned on Aug 10 2016 08:04pm