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#661
Nov 8 2022 06:19pm
Quote (excellence @ Nov 8 2022 06:06pm)
they already tried. twitter got bought out and zuck is firing people left and right after buying everything else up. tiktok is ccp/cia psyops.


Just call it safespace. It will be the new Myspace.

People will flock. Put a 25 dollar verification fee though and say it's to attempt to weed out known right wing individuals. You can get a rainbow checkmark.

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Nov 8 2022 08:12pm
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courts getting involved in social media posts is a terrible idea, and its a can of worms you'll never be able to close. you're shortsighted, prosecute kathy griffin and 10 years later you'll see sitting politicians put in prison for tweets, mark my words. just ban them for their stupid posts, dont regulate social media companies, its a terrible idea.


Courts should always be involved when there are cases of defamation/slander, doesn't matter if it's in person, on TV, in newspaper, or on twitter.

I don't see why you think people defaming other people shouldn't face legal consequences just because they do it on a social media.

Also, there is nothing bad about governments regulating social media companies. If there is potential that they cause harm or are doing bad, morally questionable things, then the government should absolutely step in. Lawlessness does not equal freedom. It equals chaos, damage and suffering.
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Nov 8 2022 08:36pm
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lawyers define damages by asserting that a person's actions caused X amount of financial loss. that is not applicable in this case because no one person's actions or even a group of impersonators actions can be proven to have caused an amount of financial damage. that's what ive been telling you all along, and you came back with "ask johnny depp", where that isnt the case, which i also told you.



I thought that it wasn't just about monetary losses/financial damages. An instance of defamation can also cause mental/psychological suffering. Wasn't Alex Jones ordered to pay the Sandy Hook victims a huge amount of money? They didn't lose money as far as I am aware. But they still won the case.
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Nov 8 2022 08:49pm
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This isn't even an apt comparison.

With regard to Twitter (which is the entire subject of this thread - it and its new owner), I could change my display name to "Ted Cruz", then make Tweets saying that "I, Ted Cruz, like to drink my own urine", and there would be no legal repercussion whatsoever. My display name may be different, but my actual Twitter handle would be the same, so there would be no way someone could claim I was really and truly trying to impersonate Ted Cruz. Twitter is well within its rights to make that a violation of their ToS, but there's absolutely ZERO chance I'd ever face real legal problems over that.


If an instance of impersonation causes someone to lose his standing or reputation, he might have a case.

Not everything is about financial losses. I don't understand why people keep harping about money.

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Nov 9 2022 06:57am
Quote (SBD @ Nov 8 2022 04:44pm)
For a while there every time someone said Twitter censored something, someone on this forum was always so fast to say its a private company they can do what they want. Go start your own platform.


This is legitimately a great time for someone with left leaning views who has an audience to start their own platform. You could have droves of people just joining it due to the polarized state of the country.


I don't think the polarized platforms will last, Twitter being the first example. Larger user base wants a shared space to combat their ideological foes. Sure some will prefer their echo chambers, but I think more users like the Jerry Springer social media style. Hoping Musks setup finds a balance between anonymous users and verified plebs
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Nov 9 2022 07:26am
Quote (JessiWan @ Nov 8 2022 08:49pm)
If an instance of impersonation causes someone to lose his standing or reputation, he might have a case.

Not everything is about financial losses. I don't understand why people keep harping about money.


When dealing with a legal case, you have to show a tangible loss caused by a specific individual. Standing or reputation are not tangible losses, from a legal perspective.
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Nov 9 2022 07:32am
Quote (Surfpunk @ Nov 9 2022 07:26am)
When dealing with a legal case, you have to show a tangible loss caused by a specific individual. Standing or reputation are not tangible losses, from a legal perspective.


Huh? Where do libel and slander cases arise from?
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Nov 9 2022 07:40am
Quote (Santara @ Nov 9 2022 08:32am)
Huh? Where do libel and slander cases arise from?


standing loss leading to monetary loss. the key is monetary loss. thus high school girls arent tried for spreading rumors that Cindy got the clap from her BF that goes to another school. the principal handles it with detentions.
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Nov 9 2022 07:43am
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 9 2022 07:40am)
standing loss leading to monetary loss. the key is monetary loss. thus high school girls arent tried for spreading rumors that Cindy got the clap from her BF that goes to another school. the principal handles it with detentions.


Advertisers fleeing probably counts.
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#670
Nov 9 2022 08:19am
Quote (RedFromWinter @ Nov 9 2022 05:57am)
I don't think the polarized platforms will last, Twitter being the first example. Larger user base wants a shared space to combat their ideological foes. Sure some will prefer their echo chambers, but I think more users like the Jerry Springer social media style. Hoping Musks setup finds a balance between anonymous users and verified plebs


That's very true. You look at Youtube videos that appear to be targeting late teens early 20''s any they all revolve around drama , use buzz words like destroy, owned, wrecked, the list goes on.
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