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Oct 21 2020 02:26pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 21 2020 04:17pm)
he's not discounting the possibility, he's saying it doesnt need to be addressed publicly when there's zero evidence. and that source is very much national enquirer in quality.

biden can do more damage acknowledging the claim than he can just shutting up, since there's zero evidence shown thusfar.


The text is pretty suggestive. I agree that he'd do more damage in acknowledging more so if it's true.

Quote (thundercock @ Oct 21 2020 04:18pm)
Well, the FBI is in possession of the alleged hard drive so I imagine Hunter will be prosecuted if the evidence points to wrongdoing. Isn't that what everyone should want? I expect credible news organizations to report on it once there's a modicum of evidence to suggest it's not bullshit. What am I wishing to be true? All I've seen are pictures of a handful of documents. Pictures that I could fake in 5 minutes. Most of us aren't Ghot and we expect a bit more to be convinced.

This is EXACTLY your run of the mill accusation though lol. Foxnews wouldn't even report on it b/c they said it wasn't credible! A lot of people at the Post are pissed too because they think it's bullshit and it's THEIR name that's going to be tarnished.


I don't know the timeline of how these charges work nor when this was shared with the FBI but if it's recent enough it might just be a case of not getting their ducks in a row before announcing an investigation. You're pretending like the FBI already deemed it bullshit, when the haven't commented one way or another, only thing they've said it's not Russian disinformation.

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Oct 21 2020 02:30pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 21 2020 03:26pm)
i havent seen the actual video but touching your genitals =/= masturbation. i read the transcript to mean that thing dudes do to unstick it from their leg, specifically pre-sex, but not masturbating.

a woman masturbating to orgasm, a woman felating a dildo, etc, are a different thing. one is an overtly sexual behavior, the other ranges from a pre-coital non-sexual behavior to something a baseball player does 20x a game.


Maybe I'm off on the hypothetical tangent far beyond its application here, but I just don't see how NYC prosecutors could make an argument under those definitions for even overt and explicit revenge porn under those circumstances. We can say its a different thing, we can say a layman would recognize the difference- but the definitions are writ in stone. I actually prefer some ambiguity and wiggle room in the law when it comes to sex definitions since they are culturally defined to begin with, something lawmakers never seem to understand. I can channel Justice Potter and say I know it when I see it, but that's not what they put in the law
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Oct 21 2020 02:31pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 21 2020 04:24pm)
so fondling one's genitals on camera would count, even if the genitals aren't explicitly visible?
Those are the actual legal definitions there on what 'sexually explicit material' means, and it requires either;



I don't see how that bit leaves wiggle room for anyone wiggling their bits. If they're clothed and not exposing genitals, (i) doesn't apply. If its a solo act, (ii) doesn't apply.
Under those definitions, if CNN uploaded footage of Kamala Harris blowing a dildo, it wouldn't be protected.



iirc that case had more to do with liability and lack of consequence. She got injured by her own clumsiness, with no causal relationship to SBC's actions.


To go down that route wouldn't Rudy have to implicate himself? The only context I've seen so far was some bullshit like "the girl is playing borat's 15 year old daughter". Not sure if thats actually true though.
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Oct 21 2020 02:32pm
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I don't know the timeline of how these charges work nor when this was shared with the FBI but if it's recent enough it might just be a case of not getting their ducks in a row before announcing an investigation. You're pretending like the FBI already deemed it bullshit, when the haven't commented one way or another, only thing they've said it's not Russian disinformation.


I'm not pretending that. I've said that NEWS ORGANIZATIONS have said it's bullshit and I think it's bullshit as well because the story is so outlandish. Frankly, I'm not interested in gossip (i.e. the Steele Dossier).
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Oct 21 2020 02:33pm
its times like these im always left wondering what stops a potus from sharing info his FBI is investigating?

FBI < DOJ < POTUS

what is this laptop classified? if the FBI is collecting evidence on Hunter for a child porn case, why could/couldn't Trump share that openly? what specific rules are there?

Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 21 2020 03:30pm)
Maybe I'm off on the hypothetical tangent far beyond its application here, but I just don't see how NYC prosecutors could make an argument under those definitions for even overt and explicit revenge porn under those circumstances. We can say its a different thing, we can say a layman would recognize the difference- but the definitions are writ in stone. I actually prefer some ambiguity and wiggle room in the law when it comes to sex definitions since they are culturally defined to begin with, something lawmakers never seem to understand. I can channel Justice Potter and say I know it when I see it, but that's not what they put in the law


If you like ABC's the Good Doctor, tune in this fall for an equally autistic judge who can only rule on cases based on the exact wording of the law.

i agree thats what it says, but doubt theres a chance in hell it shakes down like that.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Oct 21 2020 02:35pm
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Oct 21 2020 02:36pm
Quote (Mangix @ Oct 21 2020 03:31pm)
To go down that route wouldn't Rudy have to implicate himself? The only context I've seen so far was some bullshit like "the girl is playing borat's 15 year old daughter". Not sure if thats actually true though.


from the various reporting on it;
The girl was playing a journalist, and she's a 24 year old actress- she never said or did anything to indicate she was underage (multiple outlets stress this). She had drinks with him, is clearly trying to seduce him and take him to the bedroom, and then Borat runs in wearing a half-naked bodypaint lingerie outfit and man-thong and screams "She's 15, she's too old for you, take me instead!", at which point Giuliani storms out and calls the cops.


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Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 21 2020 01:33pm)
its times like these im always left wondering what stops a potus from sharing info his FBI is investigating?

FBI < DOJ < POTUS

what is this laptop classified? if the FBI is collecting evidence on Hunter for a child porn case, why could/couldn't Trump share that openly? what specific rules are there?


Trump has pretty much asked for this already. Barr is slow-walking it though. For all we know, it could be a bricked hard drive with nothing of value on it.
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Oct 21 2020 02:39pm
Quote (thundercock @ Oct 21 2020 03:36pm)
Trump has pretty much asked for this already. Barr is slow-walking it though. For all we know, it could be a bricked hard drive with nothing of value on it.


Im sensing its a Weiner 2.0, they will announce they are investigating, then it will turn out the laptop has nothing of value or really anything new. more fake stories like this kiddie porn accusation will come out than actual scoops.

so far we have:

-hunter with a pipe in his mouth (even though we all knew he was a coke head)
-hunter said he'd get a meeting with his dad for a guy
-supposed teeny bopper boobies

that's it. whoever they want can write up a 4 paragraph summary of the above but thats it.
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Oct 21 2020 02:42pm
Quote (thundercock @ Oct 21 2020 03:36pm)
Trump has pretty much asked for this already. Barr is slow-walking it though. For all we know, it could be a bricked hard drive with nothing of value on it.


Everything that enters the FBI's wheelhouse enters a blackbox. We can't see what's going on. We don't know if it will ever lead anywhere. We don't know how compromised they are by political intrigue and corruption- we know its been significant, it could be anywhere from minor to near-total. It could be a pit of anti-Trump vipers, it could be Barr doing Trump's dirty work. We don't know if its already concluded, we don't know if they're about to swarm agents to knock down a door in 20 minutes. The few peeks we've had into the FBI's internal deliberations have been usually a disgusting display of incompetence and palace intrigue, but we don't hear the legitimately disproved allegations or even some of the successes.
This is nothing new when I look at what's happened ever since the FBI took over the investigation into Ilhan Omar's numerous felonies and all the evidence publicly available. "Don't hold your breath" seems like sage wisdom


This post was edited by Goomshill on Oct 21 2020 02:44pm
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Oct 21 2020 02:50pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Oct 21 2020 12:11pm)
Media organizations are actively covering for the Biden campaign after years of working with Obama holdovers to uncritically publish allegations that Trump was fucking Russian hookers and was a literal Russian plant.

Meanwhile social media giants are increasingly pressured by Democratic activists to censor "fake news", the definition of which is to be decided by left-run "fact-check" outlets that have been thoroughly discredited.

What democracy are you trying to save and from whom? The Orange man everyone with any political, corporate, or social power already hates?

You routinely provide well thought out & accurate input without resorting to personal attacks, while also not coming across like a complete & total asshole. This is a feat few in PaRD are capable of. Bravo, sir. Keep doing you, bog.
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