Quote (Beowulf @ 14 Aug 2016 18:06)

He is a fool. He is ignorant and has no facts. " I will defeat isis, I know more about isis than generals" works on 30% of dumb republicans but that shit isn't going to fly in a general debate.

He will say dumb shit and the news will cover it. People that hate hillary will claim trump the winner no matter how bad he embarrasses himself. He doesn't have the tools or discipline required to win debates or the election. Moderates are done with the dipshit

Quote (ThatAlex @ Aug 14 2016 02:59pm)

That's probably true. He hasn't been doing himself any favors in his recent public appearances, but I think he has a chance to narrow the edge in a nationally televised debate where anything can happen.

I think people underestimate Trump in the debate arena. I know the General Election debates will prove to be different than the GOP debates, but Trump has proven to be a very skilled debater. He's very quick. For better or worse, I think he is more likely to deliver the "line of the night" or a zinger that defines the debate.

The media will probably dub Hillary as the winner of most of the debates, and she is undoubtedly better versed in discussing public policy, but Trump is the wild card. I think he could surprise some people. Being down by so much in the polls, he's really counting on making an impression in these debates. He's going to be pushing the envelope whereas Hillary Clinton is likely going to want to play it safe and try and coast to a victory behind key demographics.

I'm not ready to call the debates in Hillary's favor yet, as many folks are. I think the Donald could surprise. I just don't think it's going to be enough to make a difference, as HRC looks like she might have the election locked up, barring something dramatic happening (WikiLeaks "October Surprise," massive scandal, etc).

Quote (ThatAlex @ Aug 14 2016 03:15pm)

Like I said, I think he's highly unlikely to win the election, and I also think it's unlikely he will "win" a debate, but I agree with TCock that if he manages to pull off a swing state(s), it's likely going to come as a result of excellent debates.

Now, we can speculate how likely or unlikely that is, but that's a different conversation. Essentially, the debates are Trump's last avenue to make a big difference in votes, with the exception of a WikiLeaks release or scandal. They are his last real chance at changing anything.

Quote (ThatAlex @ Aug 14 2016 10:59pm)

That's probably true. He hasn't been doing himself any favors in his recent public appearances, but I think he has a chance to narrow the edge in a nationally televised debate where anything can happen.

I think people underestimate Trump in the debate arena. I know the General Election debates will prove to be different than the GOP debates, but Trump has proven to be a very skilled debater. He's very quick. For better or worse, I think he is more likely to deliver the "line of the night" or a zinger that defines the debate.

The media will probably dub Hillary as the winner of most of the debates, and she is undoubtedly better versed in discussing public policy, but Trump is the wild card. I think he could surprise some people. Being down by so much in the polls, he's really counting on making an impression in these debates. He's going to be pushing the envelope whereas Hillary Clinton is likely going to want to play it safe and try and coast to a victory behind key demographics.

I'm not ready to call the debates in Hillary's favor yet, as many folks are. I think the Donald could surprise. I just don't think it's going to be enough to make a difference, as HRC looks like she might have the election locked up, barring something dramatic happening (WikiLeaks "October Surprise," massive scandal, etc).

Quote (Betawulf @ Aug 14 2016 11:21pm)

WikiLeaks have been a joke in the eyes of moderates

Who knows what is left to bust out against clinton but I assume not much is left that is powerful enough to change this thing.

Also who knows what the dems have on trump that'll be released

Clinton ads have been spot on thus far and trumps are a joke

Trump dug an unbelievably deep hole and continues to double down dig. The only hope is to kill turnout and I think that they will fail. Trump is legitimately beginning to make people very nervous and scared people turn out to vote

Quote (Betawulf @ Aug 14 2016 11:34pm)

Didn't read

Might as well give up on addressing me until you can do it as a grown up

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Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Aug 14 2016 07:03pm)

LMFAO

"Every poll I've seen that doesn't involve "Professionals" with "Actual reputations on the line" tells me what I want to hear."

Quote (timmayX @ 14 Aug 2016 16:12)

Regardless of what happens with the election, NBC/ABC/CBS/WSJ etc don't really have their reputation on the line with these polls. They are all known left leaning news organizations that will continue to be news orgs regardless of the outcome the election.

Any deviation from their provided numbers will just offer a case study for more hours of television and more articles to be published.

Being accurate with their polling is not a requirement for their survival.