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Sep 9 2021 05:10pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 9 2021 03:58pm)
That's exactly what it was;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_v._Bell

We're learning something today about using quotes from Oliver Wendell Holmes to support our tyrannical governments violating civil liberties, aren't we?


I don't care about Holmes. But are you admitting that mandatory vaccination would be a violation of civil liberties?
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Sep 9 2021 05:20pm
Vaccination is not a polical party, supporting anti-vacc narrative or misinformation is simply irresponsible and counter-productive.
Btw Biden himself tried to explain it...
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Sep 9 2021 05:26pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 9 Sep 2021 16:20)
Vaccination is not a polical party, supporting anti-vacc narrative or misinformation is simply irresponsible and counter-productive.
Btw Biden himself tried to explain it...


Who's anti-Vax, exactly? How many times do you need it explained to you that if you want the vaccine, you're welcome to go get it. We supported tax dollars being used to make it free to you. Go! Get it!

For those of us who already caught covid, we have natural immunity. We'll be fine. Or at least, some of us are willing to take that extraordinarily tiny risk. Others may vaccinate anyhow, and good on them!

For those who haven't caught covid, some don't trust experimental medications, and take J&J vaccine or similar. For others, they may not be in the at risk group, and would rather just keep on keeping on.

Antivaxxers go on a campaign saying all vaccines are bad and evil and will give you autism and whatnot. That's not the people here, mate. The people here are a mix of "taken it" and "Already had Covid" and "Young and healthy, not bothered, will wait for the data on mRNA vaccines."

Personal choice doesn't make you antivax. Covid is the most mild "pandemic" ever to receive this level of attention. Seriously, the Flu kills more children and healthy young people per year than Covid. :)
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Sep 9 2021 05:33pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Sep 9 2021 04:20pm)
Vaccination is not a polical party, supporting anti-vacc narrative or misinformation is simply irresponsible and counter-productive.
Btw Biden himself tried to explain it...


Right, cause anything that you personally disagree with, is "misinformation". And anytime someone disagrees with you, let me guess, he needs to be jailed?
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Sep 9 2021 05:34pm
Worse than Trump :rofl:
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Sep 9 2021 05:39pm
Quote (thundercock @ 9 Sep 2021 18:28)
Indeed. It's likely constitutional given that you're not forcing inoculation.



Can you cite the relevant case law for why you think that this is an unconstitutional order? What OSHA regulations are being violated?

oh it will absolutely be deemed constitutional. Roberts will cite the individual mandate again as reason why. if that doesn’t work Kavanaugh will say even though it’s unconstitutional, it’s temporary and its more harm than good to do anything otherwise.
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Sep 9 2021 05:44pm
Quote (IceMage @ Sep 9 2021 05:56pm)
Making kids eat their vegetables is not punishment... it's pressuring them to do something which is good for them.

It's the same principle here... Biden is applying pressure on the obstinate lunatic antivaxxers because it's good for them to get vaccinated. And it's good for others as well, because the non-vaccinated are negatively affecting the lives of the vaccinated.

Oh, and it also happens to give him political cover, which is a nice benefit.


Children are children, adults are adults.

If you think the government needs to treat adults as children, that's ok, but it really brings into question why you believe these children are capable of electing people to represent them. Shouldn't we just let the government decide who runs what?
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Sep 9 2021 05:51pm
Quote (bogie160 @ 9 Sep 2021 16:44)
Children are children, adults are adults.

If you think the government needs to treat adults as children, that's ok, but it really brings into question why you believe these children are capable of electing people to represent them. Shouldn't we just let the government decide who runs what?


China sponsored that post. ↑
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Sep 9 2021 05:56pm
Quote (JessiWan @ 9 Sep 2021 23:33)
Right, cause anything that you personally disagree with, is "misinformation". And anytime someone disagrees with you, let me guess, he needs to be jailed?


It's not about being agree or not, it simply causing deaths but it's technically very hard to evaluate the level of responsability.
Forced labour should be fine.
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Sep 9 2021 06:00pm
Quote (bogie160 @ 9 Sep 2021 19:44)
Children are children, adults are adults.

If you think the government needs to treat adults as children, that's ok, but it really brings into question why you believe these children are capable of electing people to represent them. Shouldn't we just let the government decide who runs what?


81+ million children voted for this per icepeon. perhaps there is merit in questioning the tallys given this bizarre reasoning by that lefty user
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