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Aug 28 2020 04:49pm
Quote (Ghot @ Aug 28 2020 05:41pm)
The inability to pay for it.


We literally already pay for it, every single household does.

All public healthcare would do is increase the negotiation pool and simplify the administration, which saves money, which is why even the most conservative groups admit it would save us trillions over 10 years.

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I have to imagine that they it's all "worth it" so to speak. Beck is doing this because if he went against Trump he'd have no audience. He has to feed his family after all...


At least Trump's taking his wife out to dinners. That cuts down on the cost.

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Aug 28 2020 04:59pm
Quote (IceMage @ 28 Aug 2020 18:31)
https://twitter.com/glennbeck/status/1299153800238956544

A useful data point for those who want to understand Trumpism. I don't know how any self-respecting man could release that.

Look at the replies. Plenty of cultists acknowledging Glenn's error in criticizing the Dear Leader. Apparently he's come back to the light. He's ready to fully embrace the cult of personality surrounding Donald Trump.

How can any reasonable person endorse such a clearly cult-based movement?

only you care about glenn beck lol he’s a has been ‘Republican’ just like you what are the odds lmfao, pathetic..
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Aug 28 2020 05:12pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 28 2020 06:49pm)
We literally already pay for it, every single household does.




Interesting fantasy world.



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Aug 28 2020 05:26pm
Quote (Ghot @ Aug 28 2020 04:12pm)
Interesting fantasy world.


He's not wrong. If you have medicare or medicaid, the tax payer pays for it. If you have it through your company, your company pays for it (by garnishing YOUR wages). If you can't pay your bill, the hospital absorbs the costs by charging everyone else. So the question isn't whether or not we can afford it, that's already proven. The question is, which system is most efficient and works with our values?
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Aug 28 2020 05:29pm
Quote (Ghot @ Aug 28 2020 06:12pm)
Interesting fantasy world.


So all medical care has been free this whole time? Damn, why did nobody tell me about this!
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Aug 28 2020 05:29pm
Quote (IceMage @ Aug 28 2020 06:31pm)
https://twitter.com/glennbeck/status/1299153800238956544

A useful data point for those who want to understand Trumpism. I don't know how any self-respecting man could release that.

Look at the replies. Plenty of cultists acknowledging Glenn's error in criticizing the Dear Leader. Apparently he's come back to the light. He's ready to fully embrace the cult of personality surrounding Donald Trump.

How can any reasonable person endorse such a clearly cult-based movement?


The devil you know or the devil you don't, at least they aren't trying to rob me.
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Aug 28 2020 05:34pm
Quote (thundercock @ Aug 28 2020 07:26pm)
He's not wrong. If you have medicare or medicaid, the tax payer pays for it. If you have it through your company, your company pays for it (by garnishing YOUR wages). If you can't pay your bill, the hospital absorbs the costs by charging everyone else. So the question isn't whether or not we can afford it, that's already proven. The question is, which system is most efficient and works with our values?




Ofc he's wrong. I've explained this like 2-3 times already on PaRD, I've provided links, etc. Obamacare didn't work for the same reasons. The money wasn't appropriated.


All medical care has been free forever. We just cleverly hid the fact from 300 million people. :/
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Aug 28 2020 05:44pm
Quote (Ghot @ Aug 28 2020 04:34pm)
Ofc he's wrong. I've explained this like 2-3 times already on PaRD, I've provided links, etc. Obamacare didn't work for the same reasons. The money wasn't appropriated.


All medical care has been free forever. We just cleverly hid the fact from 300 million people. :/


I'm not sure what you mean by "Obamacare didn't work." It's a massive massive bill so I'd like to know which part you're referring to.

We've had to give people emergency medical treatment since the Reagan era. That money obviously comes from somewhere and that somewhere is you, me, and everyone else. The insurance gap is pretty darn small (and the gap is mainly due to young, healthy people which are pretty negligible in terms of resource use). So again, I'm not sure what you mean by "we can't afford it" given that we're already paying for "it" through a variety of ways.
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Aug 28 2020 07:47pm
Quote (Ghot @ Aug 28 2020 04:34pm)
Ofc he's wrong. I've explained this like 2-3 times already on PaRD, I've provided links, etc. Obamacare didn't work for the same reasons. The money wasn't appropriated.


All medical care has been free forever. We just cleverly hid the fact from 300 million people. :/


It’s still working. As intended. Premiums are still going up, and insurance profits are at an all time high.
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Aug 28 2020 08:28pm
Quote (Ghot @ Aug 28 2020 04:12pm)
Interesting fantasy world.


are you literally dumb enough to think people without healthcare don't cost the US money..
please say no
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