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Nov 16 2022 11:05pm
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Biden on the Georgian election law.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/26/politics/joe-biden-georgia-voting-rights-bill/index.html



The White House on whether Supreme Court Justices who predate Trump by decades are "MAGA"

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/ultra-maga-supreme-court



If anti-Trump Brian Kemp is worse than Jim Crow, and the Supreme Court, staffed with intellectuals who all predate Trump, is "ultra MAGA", who exactly is left?



Republicans are bad. Mm’kay.

It is such a silly scenario it basically boils down to mister makey just saying something is bad and no tangible explication why.
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Nov 16 2022 11:16pm
so with GOP having house and the Democrats needing to convince Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema over the next 2 years will be interesting if Warnock loses
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Nov 16 2022 11:23pm
Quote (KrWWW @ Nov 17 2022 12:16am)
so with GOP having house and the Democrats needing to convince Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema over the next 2 years will be interesting if Warnock loses





If Warnock loses again, you mean. :)
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Nov 17 2022 02:08am
Quote (KrWWW @ 17 Nov 2022 06:16)
so with GOP having house and the Democrats needing to convince Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema over the next 2 years will be interesting if Warnock loses


Doesn't really matter. Even if Warnock loses (spoiler: he won't), they will still have the votes to confirm liberal or even progressive judges and Biden's cabinet picks - Manchin and Sinema have never had a problem with those. And since the House would put a stop to any bigger Biden legislation, considerations like abolishing the filibuster should have gone out of the window anyway.

The major difference between a 50:50 and a 51:49 Senate is that Democrats would gain control of all committees (especially judiciary). Currently, there is parity in these committees which allows the GOP to slow down the process, particularly when it comes to the confirmation of federal judges. But that's stuff no low propensity voter will know or care about.
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Nov 17 2022 06:15am
Quote (bogie160 @ Nov 16 2022 01:41pm)
The former President did not attempt a coup. Starting or participating in a coup is a crime, and Trump has not and will not be charged for anything remotely close. This is an example of a "hysterical" position, you're repeating debunked, extreme hyperbole, and it appears that you believe it. People justifiably question your state of mind.


Yes, he did. He attempted a self-coup, as he was voted out of office and he used his power as president to try to remain in power. The "he hasn't been charged with attempting a coup" argument is extremely stupid... people don't have to be charged with a particular statute to be guilty of participating in something. Most of the violent nutters from Jan. 6th haven't been charged with participating in an insurrection... but we can all go look up the definition and realize what happened on Jan. 6th was an insurrection.

But the sentiment in your post is reason why the threat to democracy is still significant. "Normie" Republicans like yourself either minimize the coup or pretend there wasn't a coup. An American president who attempted a self-coup could go on to win another term because even "normie" Republicans are kind of extreme.

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Nov 17 2022 06:18am
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as he was voted out of office and he used his power as president to try to remain in power. The "he hasn't been charged with attempting a coup" argument is extremely stupid... people don't have to be charged with a particular statute to be guilty of participating in something.


why would he be guilty of what you just confessed is in his power to do

sorry the judicial system actually cares about the law and not your braindead fever dreams
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Nov 17 2022 06:27am
Quote (HeLiCaL @ Nov 17 2022 07:18am)
why would he be guilty of what you just confessed is in his power to do

sorry the judicial system actually cares about the law and not your braindead fever dreams


Among Trump's numerous actions to attempt a self-coup, there may have been a criminal violation. The GA SoS call, the fake elector scheme, Jan 6th, etc. But I don't think the coup definition hinges on the illegality of actions. Trump lost. He then attempted to hold onto power through several actions he took. It's not complicated.
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Nov 17 2022 06:28am
Quote (IceMage @ Nov 17 2022 06:15am)
Yes, he did. He attempted a self-coup, as he was voted out of office and he used his power as president to try to remain in power. The "he hasn't been charged with attempting a coup" argument is extremely stupid... people don't have to be charged with a particular statute to be guilty of participating in something. Most of the violent nutters from Jan. 6th haven't been charged with participating in an insurrection... but we can all go look up the definition and realize what happened on Jan. 6th was an insurrection.

But the sentiment in your post is reason why the threat to democracy is still significant. "Normie" Republicans like yourself either minimize the coup or pretend there wasn't a coup. An American president who attempted a self-coup could go on to win another term because even "normie" Republicans are kind of extreme.



I love this argument. By definition every BLM riot was an insurrection. Please don’t go there bro :rofl:



But seriously I want you to explain what was worse. 1/6/21 or 5/29/20. We should discuss these two in comparison.
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Nov 17 2022 06:30am
Quote (YeeHaw @ 17 Nov 2022 07:28)
I love this argument. By definition every BLM riot was an insurrection. Please don’t go there bro :rofl:



But seriously I want you to explain what was worse. 1/6/21 or 5/29/20. We should discuss these two in comparison.


Can't lie, these people only see what they want. IceMage has always been like this.
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Nov 17 2022 06:32am
Quote (Ryvulet @ Nov 17 2022 06:30am)
Can't lie, these people only see what they want. IceMage has always been like this.



Nobody on this forum has ever acknowledged the 5/29 insurrection when I bring it up, I doubt they know anything about it besides the fake story about a peaceful protest.

This post was edited by YeeHaw on Nov 17 2022 06:33am
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