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Jun 20 2022 08:25pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ 21 Jun 2022 06:59)
Handguns are primarily most useful in dealing with threats. I always carry when I'm hiking in the woods, or when I'm living in rural areas. Turns out the mountain lion and bear don't care if you'll "call the cops" on them. But they DO care about the insanely loud noise the gun makes, so a warning shot will scare them off typically.


I totally agree with your statement there. In Australia you can get a gun if you need it and have the necessary documents + get a license.

General mass shootings aside, my point is if everyone has a gun for "self defense", it creates a more trigger happy situation. Some may think if I don't shoot first, he will. That is how human psychology works.

ofc ar15s are rifles... I wrote that at 6am sorry :/

Let's not discuss Rittenhouse's case. I think he was right to defend himself ofc but exactly this happens if everyone has a gun. Little arguments will end deadly.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ 21 Jun 2022 06:59)
Regarding the whole "some people don't care if they die" thing... Who says you need a nuke to kill thousands of people if you're willing to die? How about fertilizer? How about an airplane? You can buy both of those easily enough, assuming you can afford them. How about chlorine gas? The person unafraid to die could spend $20 down at walmart, and quite easily combine the ingredients to make chlorine gas and put it in front of the intake screen of an air venting system. That plus $50 worth of chains and locks to insure no exits, and that's a far more certain way to commit mass murder/suicide than a gun, far cheaper too. The nuke could maybe work to kill more, the problem again with the nuke is how to make it. Just the components necessary would cost you more than 99.9% of the population has. That's not because they're so heavily controlled, but more in the extreme difficulty of making all the components, and refining the uranium, and timing the explosions so all the weapons-grade uranium reach the exact same spot at the exact same time to set off the reaction. It's not simple, easy, or cheap. And those willing to put in that level of effort are very unlikely to be suicidal.


Man let's not get distracted with nukes and self created gas and stuff XD

My simple point is (and please correct me if it sounds so out of touch) that more guns will not result to less gun violence. Let's at least be truthful. More guns (especially if guns are easily accessible) will result to more gun violence.
If everyone around me would have a gun, I definitely would buy a gun as a deterrent. This same rule works with nuclear weapons on international scale.
And unfortunately it only takes one sick person to use the gun against kids or whoever he wants. It is a tool that makes killing as easy as pulling a trigger.

This post was edited by FantasyWorldII on Jun 20 2022 08:28pm
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Quote (TiStuff @ 21 Jun 2022 08:51)
lets talk about something else. please view this vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdF3mnyS1p0


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Jun 20 2022 08:36pm
Quote (sirthom @ 21 Jun 2022 11:57)
What am I waiting for?
You, I am waiting for you.

I can't and never could.
But we can and always could.
Will you not help me brother?


I don't hate your government as much as you do. And has no effect on my life either way.
I know you could not stand up against your government. Doesn't matter how much ammunition you have therefore the whole merits that guns are here to protect you against the government is dumb.

If your government wants to do something, be sure they will.

I know you hate it but check this:

source: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/23141651/gun-control-american-approval-polling

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I don't hate your government as much as you do. And has no effect on my life either way.
I know you could not stand up against your government. Doesn't matter how much ammunition you have therefore the whole merits that guns are here to protect you against the government is dumb.

If your government wants to do something, be sure they will.


You missed the part about we can and always could.
Remember, we are many, they are few.

When the people fear a government, you have tyranny.
When a government fears the people, you have liberty.
The United States of America was founded on this principle.

edit: you chart is meaning less.
The United States of America is a republic.
Meaning, we have inalienable rights that cannot be take or given away by anyone.
Voted for or not.

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You missed the part about we can and always could.
Remember, we are many, they are few.

When the people fear a government, you have tyranny.
When a government fears the people, you have liberty.
The United States of America was founded on this principle.

edit: you chart is meaning less.
The United States of America is a republic.
Meaning, we have inalienable right that cannot be take or given away by anyone.
Voted for or not.


Your government doesnt give a shit about you and is definitely not afraid of the people. It knows enough people love the backwards politics cus it makes them richer.
You can be playing d2r and all of a sudden boom, night night, finito. They just started a little drone and took you down.
If you are on their list they will get you. Just like the Jan 6 boons.

Seriously they couldn't care less. Votes are pretty meaningless in your country I agree... cus everything gets stopped by the government anyways. Not just in regards of gun policy.
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Your government doesnt give a shit about you and is definitely not afraid of the people. It knows enough people love the backwards politics cus it makes them richer.
You can be playing d2r and all of a sudden boom, night night, finito. They just started a little drone and took you down.
If you are on their list they will get you. Just like the Jan 6 boons.

Seriously they couldn't care less. Votes are pretty meaningless in your country I agree... cus everything gets stopped by the government anyways. Not just in regards of gun policy.


That is why we must make them afraid.
Fear=respect.
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Jun 20 2022 08:55pm
Quote (sirthom @ 21 Jun 2022 12:54)
That is why we must make them afraid.
Fear=respect.


They are not afraid nor do they have any respect. Do something if you can! I am waiting and refreshing news.
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Quote (FantasyWorldII @ Jun 20 2022 09:55pm)
They are not afraid nor do they have any respect. Do something if you can! I am waiting and refreshing news.


I teach and prepare for now.
Revolutionary acts before the revolution do no help and will only serve to remove you before you are needed.
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Jun 20 2022 09:00pm
Quote (sirthom @ 21 Jun 2022 12:58)
I teach and prepare for now.
Revolutionary acts before the revolution do no help and will only serve to remove you before you are needed.


blablabla lmk when you did something. Until then I guess we see more mass shootings
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Jun 20 2022 09:11pm
Quote (sirthom @ Jun 21 2022 06:43am)
Tim=patsy


Uh the oklahoma city bombing was a direct response to ruby ridge and waco which both happened because of murderous gun nuts being afraid of the government taking their guns, bad example.

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