I’m sorry the narrative you got fed by MSM is crumbling around you and you are struggling to internalize the eventuality that Russians might not lose this one after all.

Breaking news --> https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2024/04/03/russian-military-almost-completely-reconstituted-us-official-says/







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Is ukraine currently winning the war against Russia currently? No

Has Ukraine been receiving massive $$$ war funding from the U.S. & NATO? Yes

(The majority of committed support by country has come from the United States, whose total aid commitment is valued at about $75 billion.
The U.S. is followed by Germany and the United Kingdom for highest commitments overall. The European Union as a whole has committed approximately $93 billion in aid to Ukraine.)
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/these-countries-have-committed-the-most-aid-to-ukraine#:~:text=The%20majority%20of%20committed%20support,billion%20in%20aid%20to%20Ukraine.

Is ukraine currently winning the war against Russia currently? No

Did the U.S./Ukraine blow up russias nord stream natural gas pipeline in 2022 to cripple Russia after ukraine invasion? Yes

Is the U.S. + NATO currently winning their proxy (ukraine) war against russia? No

Is Russia the worlds 2nd largest oil exporter in the world with the backing/support of other BRICS countries ? Yes

Is ukraine currently winning the war against Russia currently? No

Are you just a kids birthday party clown at this point in your own thread? Yes



This post was edited by TheLunchKing on Apr 5 2024 02:18pm

The sanctions are working, Russia is falling apart

Oh wait WTF

https://kyivindependent.com/german-defense-minister-russia-already-produces-surplus-military-equipment/

We dont know the exact state of Russia since most data is classified.
If Russians decided to hide data, its a sign things are not going good for them.
Russia military production is currently huge, but civilian economy is not doing good.
We dont know how much longer can Russia keep the war going, but definitely not forever.

Ruble dropping 30% is a big deal. That combined with inflation of consumer goods indeed indicates that they are hurting.

This can't be sustainable for them.

War has cost them >$200 billion and grows about $60B more year over year.

I think Putin is going to eventually make a deal to keep Eastern Ukraine and leave the rest.

What would define 'sustainable'? I mean, they made their economy completely self-sufficient and brushed off the economic war waged on them, and have enough cash on hand to pay down their entire foreign debt. Their domestic debt and inflation isn't in much worse shape than the US when their higher inflation rate is offset by higher economic growth rate. At this point its abundantly clear their economy isn't going to collapse and isn't going to hurt enough to stop the war, heck America is probably spending more per year to lose the war and come up empty handed compared to Putin seizing critical farmlands and gas reserves and black sea ports. Which are what he wants, and the deal he'd take.

All Putin seized was some rubble after the initial gains, you let your imagination run loose too much in your apocalyptic analysis. Everything is going as planned by Western/Russian/Chinese elites. Nothing is happening to end the war, people are suffering and dying from both sides.

Farmland unusable for next 10-30 years as its threaded with unexploded shells/chaotically mined, its not like there is any prosperity/development in lands in warzone, people living in rampant poverty completely dependent on one government or the other to sustain them. Governments do not want independent people.

This post was edited by MichaelWS on Apr 28 2024 01:13am

The farmland on both sides of the front lines was harvested the last 2 years, the only part that went unused was a narrow strip through the middle. Its visible on satellite images. Its simply too valuable to be left untapped. The fact is that the Donetsk is loaded with natural resources and manufacturing that are both strategically important and largely intact despite the war, and Russia has already seized a substantial portion and their breakouts are threatening to take the whole region.
The way the war is headed right now is that the west will continue into rampant poverty completely dependent on EU handouts, which will inevitably dry up as we abandon our erstwhile allies as America always does. Russia meanwhile has been investing heavily into construction projects in the DPR/LPR/Crimea to fold them into Russia proper.

The conflict doesn't obey some moralizing lens nor whatever fever dream of conspiratorial anarchism that is supposed to be about 'the government'. Its simply the self-interest of Russia matching off against the indifference of the west. Russia has strategic, ethnic and existential motives, while America is tripping over its own dick with another misguided intervention flopping in slow motion.

And your Sec of State went to China and threaten them in Public. Good Job.