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Anti-immigrant sentiments have been rising in the country since the early 00's, which has been fueled by the EU's open border policy. The Conservatives have tried to appease these voters; many of whom they've recently gained back from UKIP, by having tougher deportation laws, which has led to situations like in the above article and the Windrush scandal.


Oh ? so Windrush scandal is EU's fault ? ahahahah

If you want my opinion the "Anti-immigrant sentiments" isnt fulled by EU but more like by sons of populists.
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Oh ? so Windrush scandal is EU's fault ? ahahahah

If you want my opinion the "Anti-immigrant sentiments" isnt fulled by EU but more like by sons of populists.


It's the government's fault it happened, but the root cause is the EU.
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It's the government's fault it happened, but the root cause is the EU.


I think i understand your logic: EU "forced" [the root] the tories to kick out the Caribbean generations who helped rebuild UK after the ww2.

I know theres various levels of hypocrisy, but at this point it goes beyond my standards.

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May 14 2018 08:44am
Catalonia has a new president: Quim Torra.

For those that were claiming that Rajoy wouldn't allow a separatist president to govern Catalonia once again, you were wrong as I already warned you. This guy is not just a separatist like Puigdemont, this guy is far worse. He was the president of Omnium Cultural, a separatist organization that promotes fake history and a supremacist ideology that talks about "catalan race" delusions and cultural superiority over the rest of Spain. He has recently deleted these tweets:



Where he considers non-separartist catalans to be "spaniards" and "not catalans". He claims that Catalonia is a "country occupied by Spain since 1714", and he says that "spaniards" (again, this excludes catalans that follow a separatist ideology) are "fascist, rude, dirty, snobbish and mentally ill" (unlike the separatist catalans of course, which are probably perfect in his world). Oh and along with the french we apparently enjoy annihilating nations. Sweet.

And of course his main goal will be to create a "catalan constitution". No mention about social policies in a region with huge budget cuts where it can take up to 4 months to get an x-ray scan through the public health system. But that's no surprise considering he signed the separatist manifesto "Per una Catalunya Lliure i Liberal" (for a free and economically liberal Catalonia), which advocates for libertarianism and promotes the idea of creating a catalan republic that would be a sort of tax haven. It's bizarre that the left wing party ERC has accepted this guy, but nobody dares go against Puigdemont's orders right now (he's the one who proposed Torra over Elsa Artadi, who is the most popular separatist leader among the press, because he knows that his leadership would eventually be threatened if she was given power, because she's popular and charismatic).

So yes, Rajoy is allowing this mad man to become president. The reason is that he wants to "judge him by his actions, not by his words" and give him a chance, in what is a controversial decision that other parties like the centre-left PSOE or the centrist C's aren't happy about.

In any case, if this new president acts illegally, article 155 can be triggered again. The ice has been broken and all of the fears about revolts and chaos in Catalonia are no longer there, as the region has continued to work normally, so if triggering the article again is necessary, there won't be as much controversy and debate as before.
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Catalonia has a new president: Quim Torra.

For those that were claiming that Rajoy wouldn't allow a separatist president to govern Catalonia once again, you were wrong as I already warned you. This guy is not just a separatist like Puigdemont, this guy is far worse. He was the president of Omnium Cultural, a separatist organization that promotes fake history and a supremacist ideology that talks about "catalan race" delusions and cultural superiority over the rest of Spain. He has recently deleted these tweets:

http://www.abc.es/media/espana/2018/05/11/quim-torra-tuits-kTAE-U30658709100dLG-510x725@abc.jpg

Where he considers non-separartist catalans to be "spaniards" and "not catalans". He claims that Catalonia is a "country occupied by Spain since 1714", and he says that "spaniards" (again, this excludes catalans that follow a separatist ideology) are "fascist, rude, dirty, snobbish and mentally ill" (unlike the separatist catalans of course, which are probably perfect in his world). Oh and along with the french we apparently enjoy annihilating nations. Sweet.

And of course his main goal will be to create a "catalan constitution". No mention about social policies in a region with huge budget cuts where it can take up to 4 months to get an x-ray scan through the public health system. But that's no surprise considering he signed the separatist manifesto "Per una Catalunya Lliure i Liberal" (for a free and economically liberal Catalonia), which advocates for libertarianism and promotes the idea of creating a catalan republic that would be a sort of tax haven. It's bizarre that the left wing party ERC has accepted this guy, but nobody dares go against Puigdemont's orders right now (he's the one who proposed Torra over Elsa Artadi, who is the most popular separatist leader among the press, because he knows that his leadership would eventually be threatened if she was given power, because she's popular and charismatic).

So yes, Rajoy is allowing this mad man to become president. The reason is that he wants to "judge him by his actions, not by his words" and give him a chance, in what is a controversial decision that other parties like the centre-left PSOE or the centrist C's aren't happy about.

In any case, if this new president acts illegally, article 155 can be triggered again. The ice has been broken and all of the fears about revolts and chaos in Catalonia are no longer there, as the region has continued to work normally, so if triggering the article again is necessary, there won't be as much controversy and debate as before.


Goddam weak if you ask me
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Quote (zarkadon @ 14 May 2018 16:44)
Catalonia has a new president: Quim Torra.

For those that were claiming that Rajoy wouldn't allow a separatist president to govern Catalonia once again, you were wrong as I already warned you. This guy is not just a separatist like Puigdemont, this guy is far worse. He was the president of Omnium Cultural, a separatist organization that promotes fake history and a supremacist ideology that talks about "catalan race" delusions and cultural superiority over the rest of Spain. He has recently deleted these tweets:

http://www.abc.es/media/espana/2018/05/11/quim-torra-tuits-kTAE-U30658709100dLG-510x725@abc.jpg

Where he considers non-separartist catalans to be "spaniards" and "not catalans". He claims that Catalonia is a "country occupied by Spain since 1714", and he says that "spaniards" (again, this excludes catalans that follow a separatist ideology) are "fascist, rude, dirty, snobbish and mentally ill" (unlike the separatist catalans of course, which are probably perfect in his world). Oh and along with the french we apparently enjoy annihilating nations. Sweet.

And of course his main goal will be to create a "catalan constitution". No mention about social policies in a region with huge budget cuts where it can take up to 4 months to get an x-ray scan through the public health system. But that's no surprise considering he signed the separatist manifesto "Per una Catalunya Lliure i Liberal" (for a free and economically liberal Catalonia), which advocates for libertarianism and promotes the idea of creating a catalan republic that would be a sort of tax haven. It's bizarre that the left wing party ERC has accepted this guy, but nobody dares go against Puigdemont's orders right now (he's the one who proposed Torra over Elsa Artadi, who is the most popular separatist leader among the press, because he knows that his leadership would eventually be threatened if she was given power, because she's popular and charismatic).

So yes, Rajoy is allowing this mad man to become president. The reason is that he wants to "judge him by his actions, not by his words" and give him a chance, in what is a controversial decision that other parties like the centre-left PSOE or the centrist C's aren't happy about.

In any case, if this new president acts illegally, article 155 can be triggered again. The ice has been broken and all of the fears about revolts and chaos in Catalonia are no longer there, as the region has continued to work normally, so if triggering the article again is necessary, there won't be as much controversy and debate as before.


wait a second, i thought you were literally north korea style authoritarians?

i think its a smart move to let a nutjob like that one embarrass himself for all the world to see

catalan race ffs :lol:
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May 14 2018 11:08am
yes it's true, the only thing we can hope is to have him appears so ridiculous people will start to work on themselves... [Even the dumbest rural catalonians]

history revisionism is a crime btw :)

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on May 14 2018 11:09am
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^^^^^

I've been reading some of his crazy racial theories. Some of them are hilarious, but at the same time it's worrying that people can think like this in the 21st century (google translate):

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-It has been considerable, albeit not definitve, the influence of Arabs and Moors, which have been mixed with the natives, especially in the south, giving a miscegenation that is recognized by some external morphological characters (darker and curled hair and color of darker skin and that is due to a greater pigmentary power and not to the sun), in addition, the mandibular anterior angle is inferior to that of Catalan.Spanish can be considered as an element of the white race in clear evolution towards the African and Semitic (Arabic) racial component.

-The intelligence coefficient of a Spanish and a Catalan according to statistics published by the Spanish Ministry of Education and Science, gives a clear advantage to the Catalans.

-The progressive Spanish racial degradation can be transmitted to Catalans due to the strong immigration. The fruits can be seen if we observe the characterological difference between the rural man, not contaminated by the Spanish saga, and that of the cities. The working and European character of Catalan is a psychic factor that is very different from the lazy and pro-African of Spanish.

-For all this we have to consider thatthe Catalan racial configuration is more purely white than the Spanish one and therefore the Catalan is superior to the Spanish in the racial aspect.


https://www.libertaddigital.com/espana/2018-05-12/torra-revindica-las-teorias-racistas-de-los-pioneros-del-separatismo-1276618592/

Insane levels of racism, I don't even :LOL:

More stuff:

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In his article, he explained it with these words: "Now you look at your country and see the beasts talking again. But they are of another type. Scavengers, vipers, hyenas. Beasts with human form, that distill hatred. A disturbed, nauseating hatred, like false teeth with verdigris, against everything that the language represents. "

"They are here, among us," he added, "they are disgusted by any expression of Catalanness. It is a sick phobia. There is something Freudian in these beasts. Or a little shudder in his DNA chain. Poor guys! They live in a country where they do not know everything: their culture, their traditions, their history. "


https://okdiario.com/espana/cataluna/2018/05/13/torra-sobre-espanoles-son-bestias-carroneras-viboras-hienas-tara-adn-2271309


He's obsessed with genetics and DNA. He even claims that ideology is engraved in DNA, as seen in this article (again google translate):

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The extensive activity as a columnist continues to take its toll on the future president of the Generalitat Quim Torra. Despite asking for forgiveness for some messages on social networks against Spaniards published years ago, opposition groups remind him of discriminatory writings towards an ideology. This is what the spokesman of the PSC group in the Parlament, Miquel Iceta, asked for explanations to Torra about his "ethnicism" with respect to the socialists as he published in an article in 2011 in El Singular.

Iceta has read the article, titled The PSC and the Catalan goat, in which he claimed that the last example of "Catalan socialist" was Josep Pallach in the 70s of the last century, and that since then this race has entered "a process of inescapable decadence, mixing with the race of the Spanish socialist ". In the article Torra affirmed that "the crosses with the race of the Spanish socialism were increasing and increasing, until getting to mutate the own DNA of the indigenous ones. Today nothing is not more equal to a Catalan socialist than a Spanish socialist. Catalan socialist race should be considered extinct, although there are certain individuals who claim continuity in a completely unscientific way. "


http://www.elmundo.es/cataluna/2018/05/14/5af96f3fe5fdeaa1278b457c.html



Like I said, the guy is an absolute nutcase. It's absolutely ridiculous that such a supremacist can rule over a region in the EU.

This post was edited by zarkadon on May 14 2018 11:11am
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Quote (zarkadon @ 14 May 2018 18:09)
^^^^^
I've been reading some of his crazy racial theories. Some of them are hilarious, but at the same time it's worrying that people can think like this in the 21st century (google translate):
https://www.libertaddigital.com/espana/2018-05-12/torra-revindica-las-teorias-racistas-de-los-pioneros-del-separatismo-1276618592/
Insane levels of racism, I don't even :LOL:
More stuff:
https://okdiario.com/espana/cataluna/2018/05/13/torra-sobre-espanoles-son-bestias-carroneras-viboras-hienas-tara-adn-2271309
He's obsessed with genetics and DNA. He even claims that ideology is engraved in DNA, as seen in this article (again google translate):
http://www.elmundo.es/cataluna/2018/05/14/5af96f3fe5fdeaa1278b457c.html
Like I said, the guy is an absolute nutcase. It's absolutely ridiculous that such a supremacist can rule over a region in the EU.


Allright, so maybe this clown is a gift to Europe finally, he will produce memes like trump probably.
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