Uhm, vegetables have carbs? They even have sugar too.

You can bring up eskimos all day. Vegans have an incredibly low rate of heart disease, and the American people's #1 killer is heart disease. That's not because they eat carbs, it's because they eat meat, processed foods full of sugar, and food that has a bunch of saturated fat and cholesterol in it.

I was asking a question, and when I didn't get a good answer I found and posted a good source on it in case you were interested.

a lot of the youtube high carb vegans I follow are around mid 30s to late 40s so I'll let you guys know if they start kicking the bucket so we can clear this up

Vegetables have carbs but they are not calorie dense enough to fill your glycogen reserves.

You can subsist on a high carb diet if you do not fill your glycogen reserves. Many vegans are likely going to exercise. If they do not over eat and burn their glycogen reserves then they will have no problems with heart disease and such, Americans have problems because they eat high carb diets along with the meat and fats ( hydrogenated oils and vegetable oils are a topic for another day. Basically stay )

Americans having heart disease comes from the ultra calorie dense foods. Run a mile on the treadmill. Burn about 100 calories? That's how much a slice if bread is. That is what makes a perfectly good, satisfying nutritious cheeseburger into an blood sugar spiking time bomb just begging you to eat again 2 hours later because the insulin response caused your blood sugar to drop.

Overrating carbs will not kill you overnight. It is a slow deterioration that will eat at you as you age. Sort of like smoking. And eating carbs is fine if you never fill your glycogen levels. But carbs are so dangerously calorie dense you can do it in no time. And the glycogen reserves in your legs can only be depleted by your legs. Same with your arm muscles. Only the glycogen reserves in your liver can be universally used by the body. I'm not sure how many calories can be stored there but I am inclined to say 600.

I am not overly interested in debating the merits of vegan ism. So long as you never fill your glycogen reserves you are good. Most people find it hard, so using fats as the primary source if energy is the healthiest and best way to go.

Oh. Thanks. I'm used to a more confrontational discussion with you lol.

that doesn't make sense. you can eat a lot of high-protein food as well



good thing vegans can also eat fruits, seeds, nuts, and grains



nobody here ever said you'd need to eat only vegetables

tofu, beans, quinoa, lentils, oats, tempeh are all great sources of protein / have good ratios of protein to carbs

there is literally NOTHING wrong or dangerous about a well-planned, appropriately constructed vegan diet (excluding for people with exceptional physical differences)


...your posts about nutrition in plant-based diets just don't make sense and are mixed with misinformation

"It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes." - American Dietic Association http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864

"Cross-sectional studies of vegetarians and vegans have shown that on average they have a relatively low BMI (body mass index) and a low plasma cholesterol concentration; recent studies have also shown higher plasma homocysteine concentrations than in non-vegetarians. Cohort studies of vegetarians have shown a moderate reduction in mortality from IHD (ischemic heart disease) but little difference in other major causes of death or all-cause mortality in comparison with health-conscious non-vegetarians from the same population. Studies of cancer have not shown clear differences in cancer rates between vegetarians and non-vegetarians. More data are needed, particularly on the health of vegans and on the possible impacts on health of low intakes of long-chain n-3 fatty acids and vitamin B(12). Overall, the data suggest that the health of Western vegetarians is good and similar to that of comparable non-vegetarians." - Proceedings of The Nutrition Society - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16441942

I'm sorry, I'm on a phone so it's really a pain I. The ass to proof read what I'm writing.

I said it earlier but if you can make a vegan diet work, great. But if you overeat your fast carbs you're gonna gain weight. Most people can not commit to tgst diet if not for ethical reasons.

Education about fast carbs in bread, flour, grains, potatoes, sugar is what my passion for nutrition is all about.

What you're saying isn't wrong, both that overeating simple carbs will make weight gain more likely and that "most people cannot commit if not for ethical reasons" (Really depends on what you mean more specifically here).

But I don't see how that supports the notion that vegan diets aren't the most healthy, as the former can happen just as well with any diet, and the latter doesn't describe what happens for people who do stick to it, this considered alongside the fact that it actually becomes harder to overeat (and thus face overweight and obesity-related consequences) and lower instances of heart disease and various degenerative diseases.

I eat the shit outta sweet potatoes

I'm probably a gonner