Quote (El1te @ Jan 4 2024 04:31pm)
Jesus never preached pacifism. In fact, he told his followers to sell their cloak and buy a sword, but keep it sheathed until it's necessary to use.
He himself never took part in violence because He was wholly without sin, in accordance with accordance with the Hypostatic union upheld by all non-heretical Christian churches in line with the Ecumenical Council of Chalcedon in 451. One must necessarily commit the sin of wrath when taking part in violence. It is also standard Christian doctrine that we are all sinners and thus prone to violence.
It really baffles me that you don't know this basic Christian stuff. I was not raised Christian (I'm from a secular Protestant family) but this stuff isn't hard to learn.
i absolutely love how you cherry pick quotes out of context to support your warped ideas
jesus said that at the last supper, when he was to be arrested. do you know what he said next?
""Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword."(Matthew 26:52)"
dude, you are literally the antithesis of a Christian. you are full of bigotry and hatred, bereft of all compassion and understanding. you spew hatred and yet you dare to quote the bible?
youre beyond confused but thats ok. youll figure yourself out one day
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These words of Christ are not to be understood literally, that he would have his disciples furnish themselves with swords at any rate, since he would never have said, as he afterwards does, that two were sufficient; which could not be enough for eleven men; or have forbid Peter the use of one, as he did in a very little time after this: but his meaning is, that wherever they came, and a door was opened for the preaching of the Gospel, they would have many adversaries, and these powerful, and would be used with great violence, and be followed with rage and persecution; so that they might seem to stand in need of swords to defend them: the phrase is expressive of the danger they would be exposed to, and of their need of protection; and therefore it was wrong in them to be disputing and quarrelling about superiority, or looking out for, and expecting temporal pomp and grandeur, when this would be their forlorn, destitute, and afflicted condition; and they would quickly see the affliction and distress begin in himself. In "seven" ancient copies of Beza's, it is read in the future tense, "he shall take, he shall sell, he shall buy".
This post was edited by gnarjay on Jan 4 2024 06:39pm