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There's nothing wrong with um, saying you've recalculated.
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WASHINGTON -- In an extraordinary rebuke of U.S. President Donald Trump, all 10 living former secretaries of defence cautioned Sunday against any move to involve the military in pursuing claims of election fraud, arguing that it would take the country into "dangerous, unlawful and unconstitutional territory."

The 10 men, both Democrats and Republicans, signed on to an opinion article published in The Washington Post that implicitly questioned Trump's willingness to follow his constitutional duty to peacefully relinquish power on Jan. 20. Following the Nov. 3 election and subsequent recounts in some states, as well as unsuccessful court challenges, the outcome is clear, they wrote, while not specifying Trump in the article.

"The time for questioning the results has passed; the time for the formal counting of the electoral college votes, as prescribed in the Constitution and statute, has arrived," they wrote.

The former Pentagon chiefs warned against use of the military in any effort to change the outcome.

"Efforts to involve the U.S. armed forces in resolving election disputes would take us into dangerous, unlawful and unconstitutional territory," they wrote. "Civilian and military officials who direct or carry out such measures would be accountable, including potentially facing criminal penalties, for the grave consequences of their actions on our republic."

A number of senior military officers, including Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, have said publicly in recent weeks that the military has no role in determining the outcome of U.S. elections and that their loyalty is to the Constitution, not to an individual leader or a political party.

The 10 former Pentagon leaders also warned in their Post article of the dangers of impeding a full and smooth transition at Defence Department prior to Inauguration Day as part of a transfer to power to President-elect Joe Biden. Biden has complained of efforts by Trump-appointed Pentagon officials to obstruct the transition.

Without mentioning a specific example, the former defence secretaries wrote that transfers of power "often occur at times of international uncertainty about U.S. national security policy and posture," adding, "They can be a moment when the nation is vulnerable to actions by adversaries seeking to take advantage of the situation."
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WASHINGTON -- In an extraordinary rebuke of U.S. President Donald Trump, all 10 living former secretaries of defence cautioned Sunday against any move to involve the military in pursuing claims of election fraud, arguing that it would take the country into "dangerous, unlawful and unconstitutional territory."

The 10 men, both Democrats and Republicans, signed on to an opinion article published in The Washington Post that implicitly questioned Trump's willingness to follow his constitutional duty to peacefully relinquish power on Jan. 20. Following the Nov. 3 election and subsequent recounts in some states, as well as unsuccessful court challenges, the outcome is clear, they wrote, while not specifying Trump in the article.

"The time for questioning the results has passed; the time for the formal counting of the electoral college votes, as prescribed in the Constitution and statute, has arrived," they wrote.

The former Pentagon chiefs warned against use of the military in any effort to change the outcome.

"Efforts to involve the U.S. armed forces in resolving election disputes would take us into dangerous, unlawful and unconstitutional territory," they wrote. "Civilian and military officials who direct or carry out such measures would be accountable, including potentially facing criminal penalties, for the grave consequences of their actions on our republic."

A number of senior military officers, including Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, have said publicly in recent weeks that the military has no role in determining the outcome of U.S. elections and that their loyalty is to the Constitution, not to an individual leader or a political party.

The 10 former Pentagon leaders also warned in their Post article of the dangers of impeding a full and smooth transition at Defence Department prior to Inauguration Day as part of a transfer to power to President-elect Joe Biden. Biden has complained of efforts by Trump-appointed Pentagon officials to obstruct the transition.

Without mentioning a specific example, the former defence secretaries wrote that transfers of power "often occur at times of international uncertainty about U.S. national security policy and posture," adding, "They can be a moment when the nation is vulnerable to actions by adversaries seeking to take advantage of the situation."


sounds like swamp
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Jan 4 2021 07:28am
destroy middle classes businesses, as the corporations make record profits
destroy the food supply chain, hack into the main frozen food hub in the U.S
Destroy livestock feed, create food shortages, scare farmers from exporting
all part of the plan, to usher in global socialism/communism
force citizens to rely on government for food & money ,


This post was edited by darkhead69 on Jan 4 2021 07:35am
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Jan 4 2021 07:52am
sounds like it's getting seriously hot for trump with these all 10 secretary of defense who warned him about trying to use army to take power by force.

Facts bonus:

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sounds like it's getting seriously hot for trump with these all 10 secretary of defense who warned him about trying to use army to take power by force.

Facts bonus:

https://i.imgur.com/ssEu93Y.gif


Yes, this is a dishonest portrayal.

But ya know what? We heard dishonest attacks like this on Obama from Fox and Republicans on this forum for 8 straight years, so everybody who complains from the right can eat a big ol dick.
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Yes, this is a dishonest portrayal.

But ya know what? We heard dishonest attacks like this on Obama from Fox and Republicans on this forum for 8 straight years, so everybody who complains from the right can eat a big ol dick.


You can double derp it with jobs creation per president using bar chart.
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This post was edited by darkhead69 on Jan 4 2021 08:13am
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So, was the "kraken" Trump's attempt to blackmail the Secretary of State of Georgia into flipping 11780 votes to him? Was that it?
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Is that supposed to mean anything in particular, or..?
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