Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 5 2021 11:54am)

Oh please, this type of vulgar libertarianism is ridiculous, and I know that you're too smart to actually have such a simplistic worldview. Also, you know full well that IQ and all other forms of talent are not distributed evenly, that some folks just don't have what it takes to do certain jobs. It just isn't feasible to retrain your typical coal miner or truck driver into an engineer or a programmer.

Quote (thundercock @ Sep 5 2021 12:31pm)

If the lazy whites were willing to retrain, it wouldn't be a problem. We have so many high-quality jobs available that are being filled by immigrants because there just aren't enough natives who can do them. Unfortunately, they reject being educated, retrained, etc. They expect the rest of the world to cater to every whim of theirs and are hindering technological and economic progress. Let me ask you this, would you be willing to take these people off of our hands into your country? They won't learn German but you seem to care about them a lot.


LMFAO. These people aren't "quality" in anyway dude. That's why we're replacing their white trash ass with a superior product. Quit spouting Bernie Sanders socialist propaganda, it's disgraceful.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 5 Sep 2021 18:59)

Probably not, but not due to IQ. Mostly due to age. What we should be doing is retraining coal miners to do trade jobs and low level management at simple labor tasks and open up higher education to the younger population.


My ideal solution would be to actively retrain coal miners into any profession they want, take the ones that can be retrained to be coders and let them to do that, and the ones who can't or won't make trades available. Then open up higher education to everybody who wants to do it who doesn't have a bachelors, and give hefty tuition discounts to in-demand jobs. So every 2-5 years reasses what degrees are most in demand and give additional money for no charge to pay for tuition.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 5 2021 12:07pm)

I agree that that's the way to go so that we can achieve the best possible match between qualifications and demand on the labor market, at least going forward.
This does not, however, solve issues of structural unemployment, lackluster wages and wage growth and so on. When the big majority of an age cohort has a college degree, then such a degree will no longer grant them automatic access to a good wage, a cushy life or a high(er) social status.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 5 2021 09:54am)

Oh please, this type of vulgar libertarianism is ridiculous, and I know that you're too smart to actually have such a simplistic worldview. Also, you know full well that IQ and all other forms of talent are not distributed evenly, that some folks just don't have what it takes to do certain jobs. It just isn't feasible to retrain your typical coal miner or truck driver into an engineer or a programmer.




No, I would of course not take these people into my country. What I care about is fostering a fair, free, stable and peaceful society in my own country as a first step, then also in countries which are similar to it as a second step. Call me a "first world supremacist" if you like. This requires stopping the working- and lower middle classes from bleeding out, from getting fucked by predatory globalist policies for the benefit of the top 0.1%. Pitting the domestic low-qualification people against cheaper competition from abroad, either via mass immigration or via mass outsourcing of their jobs to low wage countries, destabilizes society and mostly serves to enrich the capital owners of the large multinational corporations.

To put it short, I am against zero-sum policies which intentionally seek to increase the global wealth and wage entropy without providing an actual benefit to our society. No, corporations having to pay lower wages is not automatically a benefit to our society... not when the drawback is higher unemployment, a lower wage ratio (share of wages among GDP), less tax revenue or depressed wage gains in high-demand fields - all just so that a few greedy guys at the top can rake in higher profits and some privileged workers like you and me who have well-paying jobs can save a dollar on the pool boy's or housecleaner's wage.




Well, seems like there's some socialism and some nationalism permeating my worldview. Guess I am a German after all. :santa:

Quote (thundercock in the picture thread @ 5 Sep 2021 20:16)

I think Biden was one of the few candidates who had a CHANCE at lowering the temperature. I remember so many people on the right saying something along the lines of, "I wouldn't mind Biden, it's the rest that I'm worried about." Now, it's a mainstream position on the right to call for his resignation :rofl: What can I say, Americans are addicted to rage.

Unity is something that the government can't really achieve via policy. People need to stop self-segregating and fucking care less about politics. I think the devolution of power is part of the problem because people have very very different experiences in their upbringing.

Quote (thundercock @ 5 Sep 2021 20:09)

It's not "vulgar libertarianism," it's the reality of the world that we live in. It's not an IQ issue and I'm not saying that they need to all work for Google. I'm saying that the supply of Americans should match the demand for jobs in America which means you need to constantly reevaluate your career prospects. That means that a coal miner should be retrained to install solar panels or a truck driver delivers food via Postmates. I guess I don't have much sympathy because I CONSTANTLY have to learn new skills, new tools, etc. If I don't, I'll be fired. Adapt or be left behind. Technology just moves too fast to be complacent.

It's an economic fact that the primary beneficiaries of globalism are the lower and middle class in first world countries. Due to cheap labor, they have access to goods that they wouldn't have had access to otherwise. Will some members of those two classes be fucked? Yes, and we should have policies that retrain these people. But in aggregate, they benefit the most.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 5 2021 11:27am)

To be fair, what exactly has Biden done to unify the country? He hasn't been hugely incendiary, but even his inauguration speech struck a pointedly partisan tone. And he has indeed governed like a cookie cutter liberal partisan so far.
Calling for his resignation over Afghanistan is of course hyperbole. I've myself been guilty of being all too willing to go into outrage mode.

Nonetheless, I think that the debacle will suck up a lot of Biden's political capital. This episode has shown everyone, even his own party and his friends in the media, that the emperor has no clothes.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 5 2021 11:32am)

The bolded claim is not grounded in reality. The lower and middle classes in the developed world are the ones who have been left behind by the global economic development of the past decades while the global elite and the emerging middle classes in developing countries are the main beneficiaries:
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