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Aug 28 2020 01:31pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Aug 28 2020 03:29pm)
Why did his campaign reach out to Sarsour with an apology? I think you expect us to be blind to how his campaign actually feels. As they say, when someone shows you who they are, believe them.


Cause Biden's a secret Muslim from Kenya. Duh.
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Aug 28 2020 02:51pm
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I don't think anyone believes that Biden is a radical. They believe he's an elderly who has lost five or six steps and is the palatable figurehead for a radicalized left.


Thank you, absolutely nailed it.

Conservatives are not so much afraid of Joe Biden actually being in charge - they're afraid that the empty shell formerly known as Joe Biden will act as a vessel for the agenda of the radical left.
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Aug 28 2020 03:00pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 28 2020 04:51pm)
Thank you, absolutely nailed it.

Conservatives are not so much afraid of Joe Biden actually being in charge - they're afraid that the empty shell formerly known as Joe Biden will act as a vessel for the agenda of the radical left.


How so?

Spell it out for us in specifics. What do you fear will happen if Biden wields his power in favor of the radical left?

I do find it strange I'm asking this of someone who's not American, but nevertheless...
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Aug 28 2020 03:20pm
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How so?

Spell it out for us in specifics. What do you fear will happen if Biden wields his power in favor of the radical left?

I do find it strange I'm asking this of someone who's not American, but nevertheless...


- a further erosion of public safety by the police being vilified and defunded, or by insane policy like what NYC did with bail reform
- increasing division along racial and gender lines even further by pushing liberal identity politics. for example, he established precedents for chosing high-profile nominations primarily along racial and gender lines (VP and SCOTUS picks)
- cancel culture and political correctness running amok; potentially being enshrined in law; potentially corporate america getting fully behind it after viewing the 2020 election as a repudiation of Trump's cultural conservatism
- his climate policies taking future climate policy away from elected officials and into the hands of unelected bureaucrats
- reversing all the steps Trump did to undermine globalism, steps which I liked
- large scale amnesty and naturalization for the vast majority of illegals, effectively handing Democrats insurmountable majorities based on demographics in one fell swoop
- abolishing the filibuster in the Senate, followed by granting Puerto Rico, DC, American Samoa etc statehood, thus forever breaking the Republican foothold on the Senate and the last check conservative politics might have had on Democrats in a post-amnesty world
- packing the Supreme Court; nominating lots of staunchly liberal activist judges to the federal courts who will be willing to go along with the far-left agenda further down the line
- going crazy with the corona lockdowns and mask mandates, similar to what's happening in Melbourne right now


Why I care about this stuff despite being from Germany? Because politics has become increasingly international and interconnected - the same themes and struggles are playing out across all of the Western world, with the U.S. being the trendsetter and role model for the rest. For example, Trump's victory in 2016 was a strong symbol against globalism, multiculturalism, political correctness, open border policies and neoliberal trade practices that reverberated around the world.

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- a further erosion of public safety by the police being vilified and defunded, or by insane policy like what NYC did with bail reform
- increasing division along racial and gender lines even further by pushing liberal identity politics. for example, he established precedents for chosing high-profile nominations primarily along racial and gender lines (VP and SCOTUS picks)
- cancel culture and political correctness running amok; potentially being enshrined in law; potentially corporate america getting fully behind it after viewing the 2020 election as a repudiation of Trump's cultural conservatism
- his climate policies taking future climate policy away from elected officials and into the hands of unelected bureaucrats
- reversing all the steps Trump did to undermine globalism, steps which I liked
- large scale amnesty and naturalization for the vast majority of illegals, effectively handing Democrats insurmountable majorities based on demographics in one fell swoop
- abolishing the filibuster in the Senate, followed by granting Puerto Rico, DC, American Samoa etc statehood, thus forever breaking the Republican foothold on the Senate and the last check conservative politics might have had on Democrats in a post-amnesty world
- packing the Supreme Court; nominating lots of staunchly liberal activist judges to the federal courts who will be willing to go along with the far-left agenda further down the line
- going crazy with the corona lockdowns and mask mandates, similar to what's happening in Melbourne right now


Why I care about this stuff despite being from Germany? Because politics has become increasingly international and interconnected - the same themes and struggles are playing out across all of the Western world, with the U.S. being the trendsetter and role model for the rest. For example, Trump's victory in 2016 was a strong symbol against globalism, multiculturalism, political correctness, open border policies and neoliberal trade practices that reverberated around the world.





Couldn't have said it better myself.
Like I've said before... I'm glad I'm old, cause I damn sure don't want to live in the country that the left is trying to build.
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Aug 28 2020 03:50pm
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
Like I've said before... I'm glad I'm old, cause I damn sure don't want to live in the country that the left is trying to build.


"The left" Lol. Boogie boogie!!!

Healthcare and education without going into lifetime debt. The horror!!!! The pain!!!!!! lmao.
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Aug 28 2020 03:57pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 28 2020 02:20pm)
- a further erosion of public safety by the police being vilified and defunded, or by insane policy like what NYC did with bail reform
- increasing division along racial and gender lines even further by pushing liberal identity politics. for example, he established precedents for chosing high-profile nominations primarily along racial and gender lines (VP and SCOTUS picks)
- cancel culture and political correctness running amok; potentially being enshrined in law; potentially corporate america getting fully behind it after viewing the 2020 election as a repudiation of Trump's cultural conservatism
- his climate policies taking future climate policy away from elected officials and into the hands of unelected bureaucrats
- reversing all the steps Trump did to undermine globalism, steps which I liked
- large scale amnesty and naturalization for the vast majority of illegals, effectively handing Democrats insurmountable majorities based on demographics in one fell swoop
- abolishing the filibuster in the Senate, followed by granting Puerto Rico, DC, American Samoa etc statehood, thus forever breaking the Republican foothold on the Senate and the last check conservative politics might have had on Democrats in a post-amnesty world
- packing the Supreme Court; nominating lots of staunchly liberal activist judges to the federal courts who will be willing to go along with the far-left agenda further down the line
- going crazy with the corona lockdowns and mask mandates, similar to what's happening in Melbourne right now


Why I care about this stuff despite being from Germany? Because politics has become increasingly international and interconnected - the same themes and struggles are playing out across all of the Western world, with the U.S. being the trendsetter and role model for the rest. For example, Trump's victory in 2016 was a strong symbol against globalism, multiculturalism, political correctness, open border policies and neoliberal trade practices that reverberated around the world.


We absolutely should have bail reform and I'd argue that we should abolish it all together. If you're an actual flight risk, no bail for you. Accused of a violent crime? No bail for you. Theft, trafficking, etc. should be eligible for immediate release UNLESS there is a proven pattern that you will commit more crimes. If that's the case, no bail for you. I honestly think we should build more jails and prisons to accommodate these people.

I hate cancel culture more than anything but polling seems to indicate that hardly anyone knows what it is. I don't think it actually has a profound impact on society (similar to how Twitter isn't real life).

Climate policy SHOULD be in the hands of unelected bureaucrats...we have decades of evidence that leaving it in the hands of voters is a bad idea.

I'm very much a globalist but take it or leave it. Foreign policy isn't something that voters are really educated about. There's an ebb and flow depending on national security threats.

Illegal immigration is fascinating. Trump's policy is actually in the right direction according to the electorate. The issue is that he's cruel about it and it hurts his cause. If he built the wall, limited legal immigration, and focused on deporting criminals...the Democrats wouldn't be able to win.

I think the GOP has abused the Senate rules and it's really gotten out of hand. Obstruction for the sake of obstruction really hurts the country. The GOP should allow the Dems a win on healthcare because then they can't campaign on it anymore IMO.
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Aug 28 2020 04:02pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 28 2020 01:51pm)
Thank you, absolutely nailed it.

Conservatives are not so much afraid of Joe Biden actually being in charge - they're afraid that the empty shell formerly known as Joe Biden will act as a vessel for the agenda of the radical left.


Biden is a puppet of the right wing DNC and the center-right moderates who worked together to take down the only center-left candidate running for the Party's nomination. I don't think anyone has to worry about Biden or the Dems doing anything to support the left whatsoever.
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Aug 28 2020 04:10pm
Quote (thundercock @ 28 Aug 2020 23:57)
We absolutely should have bail reform and I'd argue that we should abolish it all together. If you're an actual flight risk, no bail for you. Accused of a violent crime? No bail for you. Theft, trafficking, etc. should be eligible for immediate release UNLESS there is a proven pattern that you will commit more crimes. If that's the case, no bail for you. I honestly think we should build more jails and prisons to accommodate these people.

I hate cancel culture more than anything but polling seems to indicate that hardly anyone knows what it is. I don't think it actually has a profound impact on society (similar to how Twitter isn't real life).

Climate policy SHOULD be in the hands of unelected bureaucrats...we have decades of evidence that leaving it in the hands of voters is a bad idea.

I'm very much a globalist but take it or leave it. Foreign policy isn't something that voters are really educated about. There's an ebb and flow depending on national security threats.

Illegal immigration is fascinating. Trump's policy is actually in the right direction according to the electorate. The issue is that he's cruel about it and it hurts his cause. If he built the wall, limited legal immigration, and focused on deporting criminals...the Democrats wouldn't be able to win.

I think the GOP has abused the Senate rules and it's really gotten out of hand. Obstruction for the sake of obstruction really hurts the country. The GOP should allow the Dems a win on healthcare because then they can't campaign on it anymore IMO.


I agree that a sensible bail reform is necessary. Letting arrested criminals back on the streets all the time like NYC tried this spring is a step in the very wrong direction though.
Healthcare and the minimum wage are two issues where the GOP really should let the Dems win. These issues are nothing but a drag on them at this point, and they've lost the battle over public opinion on these issues anyway.

We obviously disagree on climate policy and globalism. ;)
What I wonder though: are you really not afraid of the Dems abolishing the filibuster and packing the Senate and the courts?
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Aug 28 2020 04:12pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 28 2020 03:10pm)
I agree that a sensible bail reform is necessary. Letting arrested criminals back on the streets all the time like NYC tried this spring is a step in the very wrong direction though.
Healthcare and the minimum wage are two issues where the GOP really should let the Dems win. These issues are nothing but a drag on them at this point, and they've lost the battle over public opinion on these issues anyway.

We obviously disagree on climate policy and globalism. ;)
What I wonder though: are you really not afraid of the Dems abolishing the filibuster and packing the Senate and the courts?


Kyle Rittenhouse?

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Aug 28 2020 04:14pm
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