you really think ppl don't realise what you're doing? you twist yourself into a pretzel to defend trump against virtually every criticism leveled against him, and then pull the 'look i'm totally reasonable, there are legitimate criticisms you could make - but not that' card - like clockwork.
no, there was no 'strawman' (you really need to look up that term, it clearly doesn't mean what you think it means), you were just trying to misrepresent a perfectly valid point in order to dismiss it. you're such a boot licker, it's unbelievable...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-company-secret-service-spending/2020/08/27/9331bd86-de36-11ea-8051-d5f887d73381_story.html

Embedded in a story about Trump's blatant corruption is a nugget worth focusing on:



Using White House resources to compile opposition research on journalists because they're reporting on the Trump organization?

Totally normal, totally healthy.

Like I said, this guy can only get re-elected by people who aren't paying attention.

This post was edited by IceMage on Aug 27 2020 05:20pm

At this rate, he'll get re-elected by people who don't condone rioting and looting. I still can't believe how far down the rabbit hole the Democrats have gone.

#fiscal conservatives
#drain the swamp

Bush used the Patriot Act to spy on citizens and you were all for it. Obama used the Patriot Act to exile Snowden and you were too busy crying about nothing

stfu you useless American

This retarded logic might work on the American voters... after all, Trump got elected once. But Democrats choosing the most moderate candidate in the field who is denouncing the riots and violence seems to nullify the argument that they're one with the chaos.

It all comes down to how detached from reality the voters are. There's no second-guessing to be done if Biden loses... it'll simply be an indictment of America.

This post was edited by IceMage on Aug 27 2020 07:16pm

Biden gave a token statement after CNN talking heads found out democrats embracing rioters was bad for poll numbers.

Kamala Harris was raising funds to bail out rioters in MN

Oooooor American voters dont actually buy into the argument that Biden would be the one setting the agenda. If they paid attention over the past 8 or so years, they will have noticed that the Democratic party at-large has been stampeding to the left. Just 6 years ago, Joe Biden was still considered a firm mainstream-liberal. Now, he's correctly classified as "the most moderate candidate in the field". Which says more about where the rest of the party stands in 2019/20 than it says about Biden.

Simply put, just because Biden suddenly finds himself in the right-most quarter of his party does not mean that he actually is an uber-moderate. And if we look at his actual platform, it did incorporate a lot of the items from the progressive wishlist. No matter how much you or Biden's adjutants in the media try to portray him as a super moderate, almost centric candidate, it is still a fact that he is running on the most liberal platform of any candidate since McGovern.

With these observations in mind, and considering how a lot of the forces on the left of the party have condoned BLM and these riots (or even explicitly aligned themselves with them), it is perfectly reasonable to cast doubt on what to expect out of a Biden administration on this issue.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 27 2020 07:28pm

On a more general note: isnt it funny how no one gave Trump any credit for condemning police violence in the George Floyd case, how it barely registered in the news? Compare this to the way Biden's denouncing of the riots is played up like crazy and treated like the ultimate proof that his entire party is to be trusted on this issue.

yeah hopefully America will reject racists like you and Biden again




lmfao