Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 22 2023 05:06pm)
should i call october 7th the "holocaust"? i mean, we watched thousands of jews die. so obviously it must be named after a historical event where vaguely similar things happened.
so to rights specifically, who is "they"? and what rights specifically are you referencing?
freedom of movement and the right to vote for starters, else equal rights.
Also, if you keep referring to WW2 someone might start saying that what Israel is doing to the Palestinians is the same as what the Germans did to the Jews, and that would probably get them into trouble. Its ethically unsound to have a rule/charter that says referring to WW2 is ok for Israeli's but if anyone else does, they are all anti-Semites. please no more WW2 / Nazi / Holocaust comments. The Holocaust was a horrifying event in recent history and the word is apart and the events are defined by that word.
did you read the articles in the above links btw ? Lets debate the term "apartheid". can we agree on this definition:
1. "The term “apartheid”, an Afrikaans word, derived from the French term “mettre à part”, literally translated to “separating, setting apart.” Apartheid is a policy that is founded on the idea of separating people based on racial or ethnic criteria."
2. "An institutionalized discriminatory system of restricted contact between races, as occurred in the Republic of South Africa when the population was separated and defined by law into 'whites', 'blacks', 'coloured', and 'mixed racial'."
The accusation that Israel is committing apartheid has been supported by United Nations investigators,[12] the African National Congress (ANC),[13] several human rights groups,[14][15] and many prominent Israeli political and cultural figures.[16][17] Those who support the accusations hold that certain laws explicitly or implicitly discriminate on the basis of creed or race, in effect privileging Jewish citizens and disadvantaging non-Jewish, and particularly Arab, citizens.[18] These include the Law of Return, the 2003 Citizenship and Entry into Israel Law, and many laws regarding security, land and planning, citizenship, political representation in the Knesset (legislature), education and culture. The Nation-State Law, enacted in 2018, was widely condemned in both Israel and internationally as discriminatory,[19] and has also been called an "apartheid law" by members of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), opposition MPs, and other Arab and Jewish Israelis.[20][21] Israel and a number of Western governments and scholars, on the other hand, have rejected the charges or objected to the use of the word "apartheid".[22][23] The European Commission considers the term "not appropriate" to use "in connection with the State of Israel". Some argue that the situation is not comparable to apartheid in South Africa, that Israel's policies are primarily driven by security considerations,[24][25] and that the accusation is factually and morally inaccurate and intended to delegitimize Israel.
This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 22 2023 11:18am