Undoubtedly. That includes the Iraq War. The problem with being in a position like Biden is that you can't really run and hide.

I'm not holding the mere fact that Biden made mistakes against him - but the criticism against him is that he has been doing this for almost 50 years, so that he does bear responsibility for the current state of the country, and that it seems unrealistic to expect a President Biden to really shake up this status quo - and that type of criticism seems justified. Emphasizing Biden's status as a swamp demon is probably the best attack the Trump campaign can launch against him.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 24 2020 02:28pm

I think if this were 2016, Biden would have had a higher chance of winning than Clinton but Trump's attacks would be effective. I really don't think he's going to be able to shake things up much. Yes, he will probably have some bills that are a 'big fucking deal' but a lot of progressives won't see it that way. Ultimately, the US government is not set up to solve problems quickly. We keep looking to national government to solve our problems when the reality is that social problems are done through the blood, sweat, and tears of local communities.

I think Biden's track record is indeed vulnerable, but the big problem is that Trump is the incumbent now. Unlike in 2016, it is difficult or perhaps impossible for him to run as an outsider against the DC swamp demon, or to sell that giving him a 2nd term would lead to radical change. The hope of some voters in 2016 that Trump would really shake up things has only materialized with heavy reservations. Trump wont be able to sell this kind of pitch a second time.

For Trump to defeat Biden, he would need policies with which he can beat him, policies which play well with Trump's base but have majority appeal among the entire electorate. Tldr: he should have gone full economic populism in the wake of covid.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 24 2020 02:36pm

Right that was my point. 2020 is a different beast than 2016 and I really don't think the outsider approach really helps anyone. People WANT a non-outsider approach due to COVID. With all that's going on, I think the "theme" Americans want is "steady hand." You could be someone radical like Warren and succeed in this type of election if you project deep knowledge and competence.

Trump could defeat Biden is things get a bit chaotic in states like PA, WI, and MN. I think Michigan is a lost cause for Trump. I think the law and order approach can work well in those states whereas it obviously is a disaster for a state like OR.

Tim Pool confirms he's voting for Trump

i think its safe to say tim was gonna vote for trump anyway

Anyone with a few brain cells can see that the anti-anti-Trump left and right support the man, they just don't become full blown cultists to maintain some minuscule level of credibility.

Does that sack of excuses, for why you support "anyone but Trump", ever get... heavy? Do you have a cart or a mule, to carry it around?

Can you imagine the size of the liberal hemorrhoid explosions if the mail in voting ends up helping Trump?