Quote (babun1024 @ 4 Dec 2023 14:27)

It's easy. Boomers are going in pension while have giving birth to few children. Regular western Europeans avoid "dirty" jobs. The jobs like plumbers etc. are systemic and VERY immportant. The state fails without them, so we import cheap labour under the guise of helping people. The problematic part are Ukrainians. Lots of women and children who can't really work.

As banal as it may sound, raising children and getting them through the educational system until they can work is way more expensive than using brain/skill drain from other countries. Infact, most highly qualified Germans in Germany are mostly parasitic to the German society. For example, best doctors or absolvents don't stay in Ger but go to Swiss or the US while getting those degrees for peanuts compared to elsewhere. Their education costs billions yet we have a lack of doctors etc. in inland :D
Centrist and right want cheap labour to prevent people from getting the wages they deserve. They aren't going to move a finger about the immigration issue. Far right like AFD is going to "fix" stuff on the surface for everyone to see but they won't solve the systemic labour problems but make it worse for migrants already here ( social tensions making it about them and us). Without labour, tax income and people who consume, no capitalistic state can function, yet the ones who complain the most are boomers who are responsible for the current situation.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Dec 4 2023 02:22pm)

They imported the wrong migrants en masse.

Quote (babun1024 @ Dec 4 2023 07:27am)

It's easy. Boomers are going in pension while have giving birth to few children. Regular western Europeans avoid "dirty" jobs. The jobs like plumbers etc. are systemic and VERY immportant. The state fails without them, so we import cheap labour under the guise of helping people. The problematic part are Ukrainians. Lots of women and children who can't really work.

As banal as it may sound, raising children and getting them through the educational system until they can work is way more expensive than using brain/skill drain from other countries. Infact, most highly qualified Germans in Germany are mostly parasitic to the German society. For example, best doctors or absolvents don't stay in Ger but go to Swiss or the US while getting those degrees for peanuts compared to elsewhere. Their education costs billions yet we have a lack of doctors etc. in inland :D
Centrist and right want cheap labour to prevent people from getting the wages they deserve. They aren't going to move a finger about the immigration issue. Far right like AFD is going to "fix" stuff on the surface for everyone to see but they won't solve the systemic labour problems but make it worse for migrants already here ( social tensions making it about them and us). Without labour, tax income and people who consume, no capitalistic state can function, yet the ones who complain the most are boomers who are responsible for the current situation.

Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Dec 4 2023 04:17pm)

western europeans are not avoiding dirty jobs, they are avoiding terrible pay

the problem is that jobs in the minimum wage area are literally not worth it anynore, because handouts are so high

and even skilled workers or those with a STEM degree get insulting job offers despite 24/7 media propaganda about an alleged lack of experts

your next post is just ROFLLMAO

there is a reason the home countries of these people are trash, they have absurd crime and unemployment stats

and how could it be any different? they have no skills and are basically illiterate by western standards

Quote (babun1024 @ Dec 4 2023 06:32pm)

Then go to any hospital in Germany and UK, look around and hope that you never get sick :lol:

Quote (babun1024 @ 4 Dec 2023 18:32)

Then go to any hospital in Germany and UK, look around and hope that you never get sick :lol:

Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 5 Dec 2023 13:41)

i did earlier this year and yes, you should hope to never get sick there

the situation in german hospitals is abysmal, lack of personnel and service staff that cant even serve patients their lunch in german

total joke, but obviously self inflicted with this awful situation and garbage pay

nurses in the states can make some very nice money, in germany you work your ass off to have a fistful of bucks more than an unemployed migrant

yikes

Quote (Meanwhile @ Dec 5 2023 05:01pm)

It's migrants overcharging the healthcare system, right ?

It's super hard to rank health care...

- Countries where it's expansive with high quality; only for those who can pay ("we have the best healthcare systeme [quality, for those who can pay] in the world" ....) uurrr durrrr
- Countries where it's almost free but quality is terrible, along with delay because a/high costs or b/country is not "advanced" (a & b being two different cases leading to same ranking...)
- On the top of that culture is severly influencing like a country where people work 60 hours per week and/or with healthy nutrition (ie: Japan) and are very rarely sick.
- Judiciary system (same than above it's culture) where hospital can be sued for minor mistake, increasing the service cost (reducing performance overall)

Attainment of goals / Health
Health / Distribution
Health expenditure per capita

Performance (money spent vs quality of service received + globally good quality) <= This one is révélateur for european countries.

:)

Quote (babun1024 @ Dec 4 2023 06:32pm)

Then go to any hospital in Germany and UK, look around and hope that you never get sick :lol:

Quote (Djunior @ Dec 5 2023 07:45pm)

Just saw this one, made me think of your post that I quoted

Poland seems to know what's up ^^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv8bfh5SMlM