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"You will die physically, but you will be born again; being born happens, or you would not be here now. You were born into this life. It is what we know happens for certain to everyone living. There is no evidence anything else happens."
Non-sequitur. We are born and we die. So it's partially right that there is no evidence of anything else happening, such as being born again. How does he know we're born again. I don't see any logical proof or evidence that we are.
"Definition of ultimate truth: It is knowing the truth of life. It is knowing the fundamental, eternal laws of nature, and the nature of the mind which distorts and hides the truth. It is an accurate and complete understanding of “that which is.”"
If you define truth as 'that which is' you run into a whole gamut of problems mainly because it is such a broad definition that we coiuld practically fit anything into it. I could say that my friend and my friend only is the ultimate truth, because he is. If they had rephrased it to say 'Being itself is the truth', then I would see the point, but they do not, and they leave the answer so open-ended that it would be painful to watch people like you try to describe the truth to others. As we advance, scientifically, we find out more and more that we didn't know was, and we even find out that sometimes it is impossible to say whether or not something truly is or isn't. For instance, we cannot say that Godel's Incompleteness theory gives a true or false answer, although it is reliable, and does prove something. Same thing with the problem of the continuum hypothesis. We don't know if it's true or false, and people have proven that it's impossible to say either one.
For what you said about "being itself is the truth", here is a related quote from the book you are supposed to read before posting :
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Change: The key truth is the knowledge of the balancing opposites, because you can see this truth in action everywhere you look. Change or movement is caused when parts of a cycle or system are out of balance. They always will move or change to balance. Example: In the weather system, when there is a high pressure zone and a low pressure zone, the air in the high pressure zone will move into the low pressure zone causing wind and bad weather. If you are hungry, you eat, etc.
There are two types of truth: truth you know and the truth you experience.
The mind truth is the opposite of the living or real truth. They cannot exist together, so you have to sacrifice one for the other. Mankind is currently sacrificing life for the mind. We just have to do the opposite. We have to start living in “that which is” and stop just thinking about it all the time. We just have to get our minds out of the way; they are blocking true life. You do not have to think if you know life.
The truth and life: When you know the truth, you can be completely aware of everything coming to you through your life senses; you will experience true life.
Truth = life, life = truth, but you have to learn all the truth to get all the life.
The more you see the truth, the more you will see the life. The more you see life, the more you will see the truth. They build on each other, and your knowledge of them grows until you know life completely and become life.
Truth first: People have it backwards. They want true life before they know the truth, and as a result, they never get the truth or life. People can get close and look like they have it all, especially the big stars in show business. They look like they are full of life and everyone wants to be like them, but they do not have it all. Even having 99% is not all of it. You need it all to take the next step in evolution and become a spiritual being. How can you live completely what you do not know completely? When you know life completely, you start living it completely.
How can you enjoy life before you know how life works? No one can fully enjoy life until they know why things happen and where their life will lead. Money, sex, success, power, fame, will not work. The truth is the only way.
From page 13 of "The Present" at
http://www.truthcontest.comThis post was edited by Eti_fr on Jul 17 2013 11:45am