stupid question

there are more ways to prevent unwanted pregnancy than i can list here, women have all the control you can possibly have

youre a proponent of taking away life-saving care, why do you want to control women?

life saving care

rofl lmao

I'm totally with you on the abortion debate. Republicans really overplayed their hand since Dobbs and created disastrous optics for their cause, like the stuff in Texas that you mention where they're deliberately leaving a cloud of legal uncertainty hang over even the termination of unviable pregnancies or those that put the life of the mother in danger.

Still, the huge lean of single women toward Democrats predates 2022, it's been a thing since at least the mid-2010s. Dobbs and the Republican overzealousness have added to it, but it's not the root cause. Also note how married women were R+5 or so according to the exit polls, and they should in theory feel threatened too by the inability to terminate an unviable pregnancy etc. Even many post-menopausal women should feel solidaric with their younger peers.

This all suggests that the huge political split between married and unmarried women isn't caused exclusively by the abortion issue, but rather by social factors, by the living conditions and the outlook on life etc.

as i said before, being against abortion for dead fetuses or for abuse victims is straight up evil

but as we already discussed with actual data here these cases are below 5% in a place like florida

almost all abortions are for conveniency and thats a fact

obviously for married women this is not a problem, because they typically do not get rawdogged by random people they dont want children with

this entire topic is dominated by fringe opinions/cases

If these cases are so rare, then why don't Republican state lawmakers carve out exceptions for them? If they ceded their morally maximalistic position and allowed for some common sense exceptions, the whole issue would be defused tremendously, politically speaking. But they're not willing to do that precisely because the staunch pro-lifers are coming from a morally maximalistic position. ("Any abortion is murder, thus we cannot allow them even in cases of rape, and if there's complications during pregnancy, the mother better be literally on the verge of dying before she gets her abortion".)

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the hardcore christian evangelical movement somehow owns the republicans

you see plenty of their leaders thinking that way and i assume they donate some pretty good cash

i am pretty sure they lose more than they gain by associating with these folks, but lets not expect common sense here

so you're evil?

The reason beyond the abortion issue is clear to me at least.

Women who are married take on their partners politics to some degree, mostly to avoid problems at home. They're also more likely to be boomers who are more republican.

And beyond that, women in general aren't as toxic as men are. They are more likely to be pro social instead of hostile. Men tend to be individualistic and to be frank most young men are shitty and impossible to be around. This isn't new either. I thought this when I was a teenager. Normal guys are huge assholes.

That's my 2 cents anyway. Abortion, women being more pro social, and young men being pretty toxic and therefore being drawn to obviously retarded libertarian arguments.