This is worse than Ukraine and Georgia combined.

FYI the state of Texas can't sue people who are outside of Texas for false tips on the abortion hotline.

so, just for example, if you say....... put in a tip that every wife of every single republican lawmaker or female lawmaker herself had an abortion it would enter the queue of tips and have to be manually removed after investigation. and if, just for arguments sake, this process was repeated by hundreds of people dozens of times a day it would render the system itself completely useless.

Been doing some listening and this law is blatantly uncosntitutional.

You can't create civil liability for people who aren't injured. You can't delegate enforcement of the laws from the enforcement branch of government. You can't violate rights without a good reason, and calling something that isn't a heartbeat a heartbeat for the sake of saying it's alive so you can violate somebody else's rights doesn't fly under strict scrutiny.

There's so much wrong with this law, and the supreme court really shit the bed by denying it without giving a reason. Fundamentally, this is the kind of thing that is going to cause a crisis where everybody stops acknowledging the supreme court's authority.

Then sue them, coward.



Given that you probably enter into a legal agreement and can go to jail for false testimony, I doubt this highly.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Sep 3 2021 11:48am

They've already been sued, and the majority rejected the claim and gave no reason why and no guidance.

Dumbass. This is why you'll never be more than a dish washing tech.

Looks like you lost then, rofl.

Get tilted.

At least Roberts still gives you a pity vote.

Yep, they lost, and the court gave no guidance as to why or how to proceed with anything. That's not something they should be doing. It's just one of the many examples of them throwing their credibility away to maintain partisan politics.

From what I've read, the Texas abortion law is so wide and unspecific that anyone who assisted in an abortion in any way shape or form could be prosecuted, even the uber driver who drove the pregnant woman (who didnt have a visible belly yet) to the clinic, or even the family member who drove her to an abortion clinic in a neighboring state, say Santa Fe NM.

It's flagrantly unconstitutional under applicable law and jurisprudence and I don't see any reason why the Supreme Court allowed it to go into effect in this form.
Furthermore, the tactics of outsourcing law enforcement to private citizens, essentially inciting people to spy and report on each other, is really dangerous and flies in the face of a peaceful, tolerant society. It's creating a perverse incentive for people to develop a block leader or Stasi mentality and prosecute their fellow citizens over what boils down to a moral/ethical disagreement.

For all the talk the political right is dishing out on slippery slopes, in many cases justifedly so, I have to say that this Texas law is a slippery slope if I've ever seen one. What the actual fuck were Texas Republicans thinking when they passed this monstrosity? It's eventually gonna get slapped down in court and is so radical and so unacceptable in its methods that it will be a stinker at the ballot box, even in places like Texas.




They rejected the lawsuit on a technicality, because there is no actual court case to be litigated yet. The SCOTUS can only decide on the substance of this bill once a case with a women who can claim to have been harmed made its way through the lower courts and arrived at their desk. This line of reasoning is tortured in the case of such a blatantly unconstitutional law which should be struck down immediately, but the logic of not ruling on the substance of the law yet because it doesn't fall under their jurisdiction or because the plaintiff doesn't have standing is at least somewhat valid.

What I find shocking, however, is that the Supreme Court was willing to let this law stay in effect while such cases make it through the lower courts, which could take months or even years. Given the flagrant unconstitutionality of this law, in particular the fact that it completely flies in the face of precedent set by this very court (Casey in particular), I see no viable reason for the SCOTUS to refuse to do their job and block this unconstitutional law from going into effect in the meantime.

And yes, I agree with you that the Supreme Court is playing with fire here when it comes to its reputation as well as its legal and moral authority.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Sep 3 2021 01:05pm

They let Obamacare stand like twice and you said nothing.

Go shove off lol.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Sep 3 2021 01:25pm

texas is one of the few states (maybe only, Alaska stands out in my mind) that allows private citizens to assist police in the capture of criminals. this used to be the law of the land, and was commonly used by police who deputized citizens from wild west days until the more modern era. interestingly though 4th amendment protections against illegal search and seizure are applied to citizen vigilantes in the same way as police, aka stringently. which in this context could mean protections in surveillance by vigilantes could apply with regards to probable cause. as in a person randomly following someone to Santa Fe may not have their testimony on the record if they dont have a viable reason to do so. although in that exact situation they couldnt testify someone got an abortion unless physically in the room, aka not happening.