Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 3 2021 07:13am)

Well I guess the obvious answer is that his intelligence community and top military brass were focused on empowering female haircuts and arguing with civilians on twitter about the feminization of our military.
And... I don't mean that just as a sarcastic jibe either. I actually think our military brass have so abdicated their responsibility to lead our troops and craft war strategies that they have left us completely blindsided by easily predictable turns in a conflict, just so they could focus their efforts on a social justice agenda instead.
One of those parables about a decadent society collapsing inwards seems appropriate.

Why is it that everyone who was supposed to be involved in the command structure of this war was so wrapped up in social issues they couldn't see it coming when the Taliban did exactly what I could have told you they would do twenty fucking years ago, when I first predicted it?
I've heard plenty of grumblings about how the top command has been growing worse for some time, not just under Biden, but its ultimately his responsibility, and Trump's failure too if he failed to clear house when these jokers were being useless.
Obama dealt with the military by hoarding powers into the executive and micromanaging their affairs and calling shots on individual drone strikes. Trump dealt with them by giving their leash slack and letting them do as they pleased at an arm's length. Biden is dealing with them by fiddling with them as rome burns

Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 3 2021 08:13am)

Well I guess the obvious answer is that his intelligence community and top military brass were focused on empowering female haircuts and arguing with civilians on twitter about the feminization of our military.
And... I don't mean that just as a sarcastic jibe either. I actually think our military brass have so abdicated their responsibility to lead our troops and craft war strategies that they have left us completely blindsided by easily predictable turns in a conflict, just so they could focus their efforts on a social justice agenda instead.
One of those parables about a decadent society collapsing inwards seems appropriate.

Why is it that everyone who was supposed to be involved in the command structure of this war was so wrapped up in social issues they couldn't see it coming when the Taliban did exactly what I could have told you they would do twenty fucking years ago, when I first predicted it?
I've heard plenty of grumblings about how the top command has been growing worse for some time, not just under Biden, but its ultimately his responsibility, and Trump's failure too if he failed to clear house when these jokers were being useless.
Obama dealt with the military by hoarding powers into the executive and micromanaging their affairs and calling shots on individual drone strikes. Trump dealt with them by giving their leash slack and letting them do as they pleased at an arm's length. Biden is dealing with them by fiddling with them as rome burns

Quote (thundercock @ Sep 2 2021 10:01pm)

That's why the logic is faulty...

Most Americans would argue that the pros of abortion outweigh the cons.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Sep 2 2021 10:12pm)

Utility vs cost

Banning abortion has negative utility

People surviving covid has a positive utility.

The cost to benefit ratio for the former is negative and the latter is positive

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 2 2021 11:05pm)

Any undifferentiated argument along the lines of "we should sacrifice unlimited amounts of X if it saves just a single one of Y" are completely stupid and shortsighted, no matter what X and Y are. Abortion is not an exception.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Sep 3 2021 10:34am)

That's subjective. Please tell me about the positive utility to millions of people that never got to experience life like you and I because society has normalized taking those lives for largely convenience purposes.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Sep 3 2021 10:39am)

We're sacrificing comfort and convenience in the case of Covid protection to give a higher probability to those actual living humans to have a chance at life. You realize they can hop in a car and just drive to Arizona or some neighboring state right? The whole point of this is to make it harder. Covid protections are serious, I don't give a fuck about the perceived discomfort which you label 'unlimited amounts of x' people will be caused just because they have to go twice to a clinic or wear a mask and it's harder to infect other people.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Sep 3 2021 12:07pm)

A 16 year old not having to raise a kid she is neither financially nor emotionally ready for is a positive utility. Which is why having good sexual education in schools is incredibly important, as well as access to contraception and reproductive health services, including abortion.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Sep 3 2021 11:07am)

A 16 year old not having to raise a kid she is neither financially nor emotionally ready for is a positive utility.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Sep 3 2021 12:07pm)

A 16 year old not having to raise a kid she is neither financially nor emotionally ready for is a positive utility. Which is why having good sexual education in schools is incredibly important, as well as access to contraception and reproductive health services, including abortion.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Sep 3 2021 11:31am)

You kind of just ignored my question and gave the equivalent of providing the utility to slave owners of owning slaves and completely disregarding the victim.

Quote (IgoSoHard @ Sep 3 2021 11:28am)

Abortion is murder. Murder is bad. Don’t murder
The choice isn’t binary between abortion & forced-parentage. Adoption is always an option

Quote (bogie160 @ Sep 3 2021 11:22am)

The vast majority of abortions are performed on women over the age of 20. The percentage of teenage births has cratered over the past few decades (a decline of 50%+ in the decade between 2006-2016 alone). And of course there is no reason that a 16 has to raise a child, or that she should be expected to do so.