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Aug 5 2020 08:16pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 5 2020 05:58pm)
So you admit that "drive" is a significant factor for success in life?
That's exactly what the diversity visa program ("greencard lottery") is designed to facilitate. It accounts for a substantial share of the immigration to the US from Africa. As does immigration based on family ties.
You were talking about an example of systematic discrimination, namely black people struggling to find jobs based on their "black name". My example of African immigrants and their 30% higher median incomes is a direct counter to that.


There are a lot more educated immigrants from Africa than people generally think. Part of the outcry of the "shithole" country statement. Just to be clear, I'm trying to re inforce what your saying.
Batalova’s research found that of the 1.4 million who are 25 and older, 41% have a bachelor’s degree, compared with 30% of all immigrants and 32% of the U.S.-born population. Of the 19,000 U.S. immigrants from Norway — a country Trump reportedly told lawmakers is a good source of immigrants — 38% have college educations.

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Aug 5 2020 08:50pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 5 2020 07:58pm)
So you admit that "drive" is a significant factor for success in life?



That's exactly what the diversity visa program ("greencard lottery") is designed to facilitate. It accounts for a substantial share of the immigration to the US from Africa. As does immigration based on family ties.





You were talking about an example of systematic discrimination, namely black people struggling to find jobs based on their "black name". My example of African immigrants and their 30% higher median incomes is a direct counter to that.


lol wut? a smaller sample size with far more drive as immigrants have doesnt disprove an often repeated study. its a trope its been done so many times. rich kids who grow up rich dont appreciate what they have, in the same way americans cant be compared to immigrants. this just seems silly now lol.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ 6 Aug 2020 04:11)
Yet they're so difficult for you guys to point out. There's a reason why you keep talking about civil right era stuff as proof and keep evading defining what you see as unfair today.


they've been pointed out by several people on multiple occasions just in this thread. you just once again refuse to acknowledge that and act like what happened in the past could not possibly have an influence on the situation today. of course, because that's the only way to maintain your bigoted views...

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Aug 6 2020 05:25am
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Yet they're so difficult for you guys to point out. There's a reason why you keep talking about civil right era stuff as proof and keep evading defining what you see as unfair today.


George Floyd and all the black males being killed by police instead of just being arrested like everyone else when they commit crimes.
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Aug 6 2020 05:27am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 5 2020 10:14pm)
We literally had a court case a few years ago where the judge struck down voting limitations because minorities were targeted with surgical precision. Remember the North Carolina voting ID law where it was demonstrated Beyond any doubt that types of ID were specifically excluded based on what ethnic groups would use them? And that they shut down polling places with the same goal and effect. We've literally pointed this out for years with specific examples. If you don't remember them that's not my fault, I think it just means you haven't been reading for content


Doesn't matter if it doesn't fit into his world view

Void is a true racist. He believes if blacks were just better humans they would ok and its their fault this is happening, from jim crow to current segregations and abuses. Its their fault, and if blacks could be less inferior they would be able participate in civic life. He doubled down on it in this thread several times.

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Aug 6 2020 05:31am
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Doesn't matter if it doesn't fit into his world view

Void is a true racist. He believes if blacks were just better humans they would ok and its their fault this is happening, from jim crow to current segregations and abuses. Its their fault, and if blacks could be less inferior they would be able participate in civic life. He doubled down on it in this thread several times.


no, no, no... you don't get it. people like void and blackzit are not 'racists', they are merely 'race realists'. just read the bell curve, man. the science is on their side.
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Aug 6 2020 05:45am
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no, no, no... you don't get it. people like void and blackzit are not 'racists', they are merely 'race realists'. just read the bell curve, man. the science is on their side.


Not lumping BlackX in there with him because he can be objective, he understands arguments and doesn't just say nuh uh, and he has some insight. He will admit the black experience in america isn't the same as everyone else as well.

Void cannot see anything from a viewpoint that is not his. He proves it time and time again. You ask him about the black experience in america and he talks about property taxes as a response....he doesn't even understand the line of questions through his egocentrism.
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Aug 6 2020 06:47am
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Not lumping BlackX in there with him because he can be objective, he understands arguments and doesn't just say nuh uh, and he has some insight. He will admit the black experience in america isn't the same as everyone else as well.

Void cannot see anything from a viewpoint that is not his. He proves it time and time again. You ask him about the black experience in america and he talks about property taxes as a response....he doesn't even understand the line of questions through his egocentrism.



Lol

I responded to your shitty schools point which you quickly pivoted away from.

There are multiple lenses to look at issues. You exclusively look at the world and issues through an oppression/racism everywhere lens.You don’t care to understand underlying reasons like the fact that fatherlessness is responsible for almost all issues in the black community, or the fact that the reason blacks have higher police interactions because they commit violent crimes at higher rates. Nope, it’s because of racism cops police the inner city not because those areas are crime hotspots!
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Aug 6 2020 07:21am
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Lol

I responded to your shitty schools point which you quickly pivoted away from.

There are multiple lenses to look at issues. You exclusively look at the world and issues through an oppression/racism everywhere lens.You don’t care to understand underlying reasons like the fact that fatherlessness is responsible for almost all issues in the black community, or the fact that the reason blacks have higher police interactions because they commit violent crimes at higher rates. Nope, it’s because of racism cops police the inner city not because those areas are crime hotspots!


Pivot away? You weren't even wrong in your response it was so unrelated to what we were talking about.
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