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Viability and consciousness are not the same thing.

The issue is cucks like you who see any sexuality as a threat. Once you start getting laid you'll stop being such a pansy.



Why does it matter if it's "a life form". You're a lifeform and nobody values your life.


how often do you think about my sex life? just a rhetorical question.

you are very mad, what is the reason? abortion is murder.
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Rofl at democrats crying about constitutionality.

Even if only one more baby is born into this world and can enjoy life just like you and I as a result of this law it's a great positive.

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As soon as I don't get charged for causing a miscarriage when I punch a woman in the uterus.

The right to punch women in the uterus seems to be a salient issue for you. :lol:


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but abortion and thats when the fetus doesnt count

That's because the fetus cannot survive without the mother. The pregnant woman's bodily autonomy gives her a right to end this life form which is not a fully developed human yet and which could not develop into independent human life without her. The murderer does not have the right to make this decision about the potential life.

You've got a point, however. If a society distinguishes between potential human life (embryos or early stage fetuses) and fully developed, independent human life (newborns or third trimester fetuses), then the killing of a not yet viable fetus in the body of a pregnant woman should carry a lower sentence and not be legally put on the same level as the murder of an alive human.

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Rofl at democrats crying about constitutionality.

Even if only one more baby is born into this world and can enjoy life just like you and I as a result of this law it's a great positive.


"Even if only just a single covid death can be prevented as a result of lockdowns and mask-wearing it's a great positive"

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"Even if only just a single covid death can be prevented as a result of lockdowns and mask-wearing it's a great positive"


Tyranosaurus rekt
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Sep 2 2021 06:17pm
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Rofl at democrats crying about constitutionality.

Even if only one more baby is born into this world and can enjoy life just like you and I as a result of this law it's a great positive.


If you think about this for more than 2 seconds, you will come to the conclusion that this is a very dangerous line of thinking.
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"Even if only just a single covid death can be prevented as a result of lockdowns and mask-wearing it's a great positive"


Not comparable dawg.

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If you think about this for more than 2 seconds, you will come to the conclusion that this is a very dangerous line of thinking.


I'm fine with it.
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Not comparable dawg.

I'm fine with it.


It's more than comparable. The argument for preventing Covid deaths is a far stronger moral argument than your abortion argument.
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It's more than comparable. The argument for preventing Covid deaths is a far stronger moral argument than your abortion argument.


You can literally replace that with dozens of things that cause deaths, that doesn't mean they are comparable. Why not driving or processed foods or alcohol? It's a pointless and retarded gotcha exercise.
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The earliest a baby has been born and survived is 21 weeks and 5 days. Two premature babies hold the record for this. Surprisingly, the first record holder was born in 1987, a time when the medical care of premature babies (neonatology) was a very new field. However, this is well before the accepted age of viability.

Also abortion is murder no matter how you look at it.

The issue is whores using it as contraception method.


Here's a genuine question for you:

If "abortion is murder", then the State should have a similar interest in intervening during the pre-meditation stage similar to how it would intervene if Person A had intent to kill Person B. The State would not simply wait idly by until Person A killed Person B to take action.

If, according to your position, both the mother (Person A) and the fetus (Person B ) constitute a whole person and abortion is murder, then the State should be proactively interfering if/when the mother intends to seek an abortion, right? What would this look like though should your position become enshrined in law?

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