Quote (SanduLungu @ Sep 2 2021 04:03pm)

The earliest a baby has been born and survived is 21 weeks and 5 days. Two premature babies hold the record for this. Surprisingly, the first record holder was born in 1987, a time when the medical care of premature babies (neonatology) was a very new field. However, this is well before the accepted age of viability.

Also abortion is murder no matter how you look at it.

The issue is whores using it as contraception method.

Quote (TiStuff @ Sep 2 2021 03:46pm)

at conception it is a life form, a human life form.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 2 Sep 2021 22:35)

When they gain consciousness. Sometime around 23 weeks, maybe before. Definitely not at 6 weeks.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Sep 2 2021 02:04pm)

Viability and consciousness are not the same thing.

The issue is cucks like you who see any sexuality as a threat. Once you start getting laid you'll stop being such a pansy.



Why does it matter if it's "a life form". You're a lifeform and nobody values your life.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 2 2021 02:26pm)

Yes, that's about where I stand as well. I'm just unsure if thundercock was being serious or trolling when he said the "murder" bit. Having such an unenlightened stance on the issue would be uncharacteristic for him.

Quote (TiStuff @ 2 Sep 2021 23:33)

u murder a woman and its found out that she was with child it will be double murder.

the games only start with abortion.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 2 2021 01:18pm)

When does a fetus become viable life in your opinion? Because that's what determines when an abortion turns into murder.

Quote (TiStuff @ Sep 2 2021 04:32pm)

its still a human life form at conception. all you do is make excuses the "no choice" people

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Sep 2 2021 02:58pm)

You're a human life and nobody would care if you died.

So why is a fetus any different?

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 2 2021 02:37pm)

That's because the expectation is that the murdered woman would have carried her baby to full term. This is far and away the modal outcome of pregnancy, so that's what the justice system assumes would have happened without the murder.