Quote (zarkadon @ 10 Mar 2020 13:54)

Well, how many Italians have been involved in head to head wars (not counting NATO missions where they basically just provide assistance)? I wasn't comparing the deathrates, but the understanding of a society that certain demographics have to be put at risk sometimes.

And before you call other people's analogies stupid, look at your own comparing Italy to China. Have you ever been to China? As much as I love the country and the people there, their hygiene education is light years behind that of Italians. People spit on the streets all the time, markets have their food stored on the floor, etc... one of my favourite anecdotes from there is that in a flight between Gui Lin and Guanzhou I saw an old woman take off her shoes and begin to clip her toenails... letting the bits fling into the aisle... and nobody seemed to care, as if it was standard behavior. Of course, in these situations, extreme measures might be more justified, because you can't rely on the people's self control. But in Italy's case, if the government focused solely on isolating the elderly, then things would be better off, because the country's better hygiene standards would make it all easier to control.

And while you joke about the Chinese government caring about its citizens, you fail to understand that taking care of the elderly is deeply rooted in their culture (unlike in other East Asian countries, where the elderly are seen as burdens and pretty much social parasites). Even during the harshest times of Mao's dictatorship, the elderly were not mistreated... during the famine caused by the Great Leap Forward, people were encouraged to abandon their babies over letting the elderly dies; and even during the Cultural Revolution, where everything Old was demonized, people were still encouraged to take care of senior citizens.

Quote (ofthevoid @ 10 Mar 2020 08:09)

except there are ample stats out there to show aggregate benefits like low unemployment rate, 401k's going up for middle class savers, etc.

Quote (ofthevoid @ 10 Mar 2020 13:21)

Keep denying reality.

The rich benefit, the middle and lower class did as well which is reflected in two things i pointed out and other macro indicators.

Quote (excellence @ 10 Mar 2020 14:00)

fender aka heinrich doesn’t work so these metrics don’t matter to him

Quote (IceMage @ Mar 9 2020 03:34pm)

https://i.imgur.com/nl9mQDU.png
https://i.imgur.com/Z6ezwDF.png

:bonk:

Quote (Surfpunk @ 10 Mar 2020 16:29)

/smh

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/immigration/article241046076.html

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Mar 10 2020 10:41am)

internal rivalries ? why would they remove such a thing ?

Quote (balrog66 @ 10 Mar 2020 16:50)

So our region (North Brabant) just had a pressco. Advice for all schools to remain open even if there's no teaching going on. This to prevent grandparents from babysitting because parents are at work. Large events (football matches/concerts) are cancelled until next week.

Strategy is to try and contain the virus within healthy population it seems.

Quote (Surfpunk @ 10 Mar 2020 16:59)

If I had to guess, it's because they've pretty much said that all communication has to go through Pence's office, and this didn't do that.

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Mar 10 2020 11:12am)

I guess all those can keep at home at doing it already, because putting children together, even if it's, lets say, 10 instead of 25 per class, looks more like "spreading the virus withing healthy population".




Too harsh, and why "then takes it back" instead of "put it back on the walls" then... I hope that's not campaign that the spread is coming from migrants/illegals ... I'm already imagining the Trump tweet about this...