"Liz Cheney endorses Kamala Harris over Donald Trump" - my gosh, who saw that coming? /s

Well it's not a total surprise, but she was in House leadership and voted/supported Trump before the attempted coup so kind of a notable thing.

Trump cultists/others love to play this "why are you surprised?" game.

But if we flipped these scenarios, and it was Al Gore and his kid(who was prominent in the Democratic House leadership) coming out against Kamala Harris, it would obviously be a big story. But they play this game where significant events are no longer significant because they are not surprising. But the only reason it's not surprising is because Cheney has stood against Trump since he tried to steal the election. And the notable thing about the last sentence is not Liz Cheney standing against Trump, it's Trump trying to steal an election.

She also had the following to say about Kamala back in the day:



By her own admission, Cheney will vote for a candidate she considers a radical, whose policies are diametrically opposed to her own - yet it's still not surprising that this is where Cheney stands, because the TDS runs that deep.





Al Gore would be a big deal because his party hasn't departed from his policies and vision the way the GOP has moved away from neocons like Cheney. If anything, the Democratic party has moved toward Gore's positions since 2000.

Other Democrats, who were indeed left behind by their party, have indeed come out in support of Trump. Most prominently RFK Jr and Tulsi Gabbard. Who btw used to be in party leadership (vice chair of the DNC), very similar to Cheney.

Sure, Cheney's previous opposition to Harris obviously shows how dangerous she thinks a next Trump administration would be.

Lol. I know you're a foreigner but Vice Chair of the DNC is not in any way equivalent or even close to where Liz Cheney held power. Cheney was in House leadership, Tulsi got a party title because she was an attractive woman coming up in the ranks. She ultimately turned out to be a laughingstock, going from a Bernie Sanders Democrat to a Trump Republican who campaigned for Kari Lake. Nothing can explain that beyond ambition and her unique nuttery.

How do you go from supporting medicare for all to supporting Trump overturning an election? It's ambition, nuttery, or a combination of the two.

I wish Tulsi weren't an insane crackpot. She sang with one of my favorite podcasters:



This post was edited by IceMage on Sep 6 2024 06:38pm

Sorry to break the news to you, the ones who kept quiet will be filling the Trump administration. Only so many bumpkins close to Washington.

This post was edited by IceMage on Sep 6 2024 06:48pm

as we're seeing, most people find Russian money hard to turn down. its too bad that she flippflopped so hard




establishment vs corrupt fake billionaire man-child who would subvert democracy for his Russian butt buddy

not an easy choice but a clear one

https://kamalaharris.com/issues/

https://kamalaharris.com/issues/

With less than 2 months until election day and 50 days after starting her campaign, after taking a formal nomination despite no primary elections, Kamala Harris has finally unveiled a policy platform and taken (non-horizontal) positions!
Most of them are incredibly vague and insubstantive, some are direct policies however. Though they tend to be just copies of what Donald Trump is already advocating, like the child tax credit and no tax on tips.

So basically;

• Expand child tax credit (same as trump)
  
• Roll back Trump tax cuts
  
• Institute a wealth tax (lol)
  
• Subsidize first time home buyers
  
• Subsidize new business startups
  
• Raise the federal minimum wage (thanks to her inflation, this impacts nobody, good job)
  
• Extend medicaid postpartum coverage from 2 months to 12 months even though almost every state already does this so its redundant
  
• Eliminate tax on tips (same as trump)

That's it for actual positions unless I'm missing anything. Everything else is just vague politico-speak bullshit, like "As President, she will unite Americans to tackle the climate crisis as she builds on this historic work" which makes me want to get a sound board of the critical drinker saying "Oh fuck off"
The vast majority of her "policy platform" is just trying to take credit for Biden policies, and I'm not sure that's a winning strategy for her. She's campaigning on promising the student loan bailouts that Biden did, and the courts shot down as blatantly unconstitutional.


Again I want to contrast with my rundown comparison of Obama's 2008 speech where he made detailed policy proposals, many of which he delivered on. He may have purposefully lied about the effects of the ACA, but you can't deny he campaigned on it and had both vision and direct proposals. I just read Kamala's platform and it basically doesn't exist. I mean, her boldest proposals are to ask congress to throw money at homer buyers and small businesses, which wouldn't even dent the wildly skyrocketing cost of homes and rent. If the feds give you $25k in funny money when you buy a house that now costs $500k and used to cost $200k, they're just making inflation even worse. Or more likely just make that same house cost $525k.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Sep 8 2024 10:09pm

That would be the best unrealistic possible outcome of such a program, more likely to in the short term push prices way up further then drop back down after the program ends.