the part i dont get is these headlines always get torn apart in about 3 hours flat. whatever unsure nature they're grabbing with that headline gets destroyed in just a few hours. so they get MAYBE a short term boost, then in the long run compilation photos like this make them look like shit. even if we 4d chess shitty online clickbait journalism it seems like a net loss.

just asking the dumb questions but... how is it treason when trump isn't even officially a nominee yet?

terrible person, doing a terrible thing; a life was lost here, but let's not dehumanize him and act like we can't understand what draws this behavior out of people

no news outlet is justifying what he did, they're simply trying to understand it so you can help put guardrails in place

Going for a dome shot at 150 with irons is either the mark of a professional or someone who had no idea what they're doing.
I am completely following your logic here because I can't tell if this guys a pro, or all these details were handled for him beforehand.

Also the USSS said that trump was in international waters and therefore he wasnt in the active protection zone.
They also have no plans for changing any policy because that takes time and they're very stressed right now.

Here's a snipers opinion on the situation:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13634219/Veteran-longest-confirmed-sniper-kill-Trump-assassination-attempt.html

This post was edited by zorzin on Jul 15 2024 10:42am

Here is my response.

CIA would not miss tbh

surely possible something whack happened here

I guess the most likely is EXTREME incompetence and complacency in this event but that leaves a lot of room for looking for reasons why that could ever be the case

That is WILD!

Grazed the ear right as he turned his head, if anyone is remotely aware of high adrenaline situations, they'd understand this shot placement was fucking phenomenal..

This isn't fudster breaking out his deer rifle sitting at a range bench with scope, aiming down range and hitting a bullseye on a target.

High stress situation
Middle of Summer
Ascend a Ladder to Roof
Bearcrawl on hot metal panels

Okay, put this into perspective, run a 1/4 mile to get your heart rate up to speed..

Climb a ladder, laydown on hot metal, within a second or two have target acquistion, fire..

This is so much harder to perform in a real life scenario, facing certain death, knowing as soon as you pull, it's all over..

You cannot pull this off without training, so it begs the question, who..?

killing a presumptive nominee and/or former president would be at the very least would be subversion as that person is attempting to overthrow the order of the country. would attempting to murder a political figure go so far as treason? i would say yes but some scholars would argue otherwise.

I'd like to know more about this, as I've read cursory accounts of this. This seems like a massive failure of Secret Service and gives rise to conspiracy theories.

I'm also concerned about how many people are saying that if Trump had been killed, that it would have meant them initiating some kind of civil war. Presidential assassination, attempted or otherwise, understandably would rock the country but to have one's instinct be to seek civil war is perhaps reflective of how divisive things are as a country. It certainly doesn't help though when large media outlets refuse to call a spade a spade and report this as an assassination attempt.

This post was edited by Handcuffs on Jul 15 2024 11:09am