thats what happens when you are so ill-informed of history/politics/whats happening around the world and you live in an echo chamber to think these elections were rigged etc

keep drawing at the board, sometimes the simplest answers are there to be found;

This post was edited by xEternity on Dec 31 2020 01:40pm

#VoteThemALLOut

If they didn't want that to happen it would be in the constitution

Vice President Pence on Thursday asked a federal judge to reject a bid by Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) and other Republicans to broaden Pence's powers in a manner that would effectively allow him to overturn President-elect Joe Biden's electoral win.

The lawsuit, filed earlier this week, seeks to expand Pence's role in an upcoming Jan. 6 meeting of Congress to count states' electoral votes and finalize Biden's victory over President Trump.

But in a Thursday brief to Texas-based U.S. District Judge Jeremy Kernodle, a Trump appointee, Pence said he was not a proper defendant to the suit.

"A suit to establish that the Vice President has discretion over the count, filed against the Vice President, is a walking legal contradiction," a Department of Justice attorney representing Pence wrote in the filing.



Typically, the vice president's role in presiding over the Jan. 6 meeting is a largely ceremonial one governed by an 1887 federal law known as the Electoral Count Act.

But the Republican lawsuit seeks to invalidate the law as an unconstitutional constraint on the vice president's authority to choose among competing claims of victory when state-level election results are disputed.

Republicans in several key battleground states have disputed Biden's win and offered alternate "slates" of pro-Trump electors to be counted on Jan. 6, but experts say these efforts carry no legal weight.



The lawsuit targeting the vice president comes as Pence finds himself under increasing pressure from supporters of the president, and even the president himself, to use his statutory role to challenge normal election protocols.

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Among the plaintiffs in the lawsuit were Kelli Ward, who chairs the Arizona Republican Party and formerly served as an Arizona state senator. Ward has repeated claims similar to Trump and his allies that the 2020 election was subject to widespread fraud.



Ward was also involved in an earlier lawsuit to overturn Biden's win in Arizona. However, the suit was not successful.

Election law expert Edward Foley, a law professor at the Ohio State University, said Pence's position amounted to "a straightforward lawyerly response" to the lawsuit.

"It's main argument is to say that the plaintiffs should have sued the Senate and House of Representatives, not the Vice President, but it also suggests reasons - like no standing on the part of the plaintiffs - that a suit against the two chambers of Congress would fail as well procedurally," Foley said.



In separate developments in the case Thursday, an attorney for the Democratic-led House indicated that Democratic lawmakers would file an amicus brief in the suit.

Additionally, a Biden elector from Colorado asked the judge for permission to join the lawsuit as a defendant, citing concerns that Pence and the Justice Department would not adequately represent the interests of Biden electors.

This is why we don't elect idiots who can't read or can't be bothered to read to political office.

Republicans directly involved in the Georgia runoff for two US Senate seats are increasingly concerned that the Democrats are outperforming their pace in early voting as compared to the 2020 general election.

The better-than-expected turnout in early voting by registered Democrats puts a new level of pressure on Republicans to turn out their base voters on the final day of voting, January 5.
Republicans always anticipated that much like in the general election, the bulk of their voters would vote in the traditional fashion -- in person and on Election Day. The party did make a concerted effort to encourage their supporters to vote early or by mail-in -- but they fully understood that President Donald Trump's consistent attacks on mail in voting would make that a difficult sell. According to two different GOP operatives familiar with the Republican analysis of data being collected, Republicans need an impressive turnout on Tuesday, January 5 in order to overcome the Democratic turnout in the two weeks of early voting leading up to Election Day.

"We've always known we need a big Election Day," said one of the operatives. "It is the same as the General (Election)."
Meanwhile, Democrats agree that their early turnout pace is encouraging. They point to long lines at early voting locations in places like Cobb County, a Democratic stronghold that delivered a 15-point win for Joe Biden as well as impressive turnout among diverse voter groups.
"We are pleased with the level of energy and excitement, especially given how often pundits were discounting the likelihood of Democrats performing in a runoff," said former Democratic gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams, who has played an active role in the Democratic campaigns.

However, Democrats remain concerned about the record-breaking financial investment by national Republicans and outside groups. While the Democratic Party put a special emphasis on mail-in and early voting, they also plan to deploy a massive ground game on Tuesday with the goal of keeping the margins ahead of the gap Republicans expect to close on the final day of voting.
Georgia GOP senator to quarantine just days ahead of runoff
Georgia GOP senator to quarantine just days ahead of runoff
"According to the current analysis we are running even or ahead of where we were in 2020 November election, but we know that this is just the beginning we still have to get to Election Day and I don't count anything until it's done," Abrams said. "But we are incredibly enthusiastic not only about African American turnout, but we have seen increases among Latino and API voters."

While Republicans understand that they will have some ground to make up on the final day of voting, they still believe it's an achievable goal -- the Republican National Committee has invested millions of dollars into a ground game, mimicking the one used during the general election. They are also hopeful Trump's last-minute visit to the state Monday will help encourage his diehard supporters to take the time to vote on January 5.
"(Election Day) is hugely important," said another Republican operative. "Democrats have banked a lot more of their high propensity voters early. We need our base to turn out on Election Day in a big way. The President's visit on Monday will hopefully go a long way to getting our base out."

I'm betting money that to him the Constitution is another one of those things that shouldn't exist because it requires too much reading to understand.

if there is no cheating and vote fraudulent vote by mail, the trend will continue , republicans will take both seats in georgia

they won every race in the house for a reason, democrats are nuts, and everyone knows it

This post was edited by darkhead69 on Dec 31 2020 06:23pm

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/georgia-sen-david-perdue-facing-tight-runoff-will-quarantine-after-n1252625

"Sen. David Perdue, R-Ga., will start to quarantine after someone on his re-election team tested positive for Covid-19, his campaign said Thursday.

The move will force him to miss crucial time on the campaign trail just days ahead of his runoff Tuesday against Democrat Jon Ossoff."

Yeah, Democrats are nuts.