Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 4 2020 12:49pm)

And this is the issue. We have a lot of criticism of Cuomo by people with no understanding of how the powers work or a basic understanding of the healthcare system.

I'm very open to Cuomo messing up. It was a pandemic and they were the first ones hit, they were the most vulnerable with lots of poverty and high population density, etc. etc. So there's ample room to show that it wasn't handled properly, but to show it wasn't handled properly we need to know how it could have been handled better. Maybe New York was doomed from the start and there was nothing he could have done? Maybe he dropped the ball and could have prevented 90% of infections? I've not seen a great argument for either being the case.

Quote (thundercock @ Aug 4 2020 02:51pm)

I think the issue is that we knew that it spread like wildfire in nursing homes based on what happened in Washington (February). It would have been more prudent to let them die alone to be honest.

Quote (Thor123422 @ 4 Aug 2020 22:00)

Gonna be hard for a criticism that consists of "He didn't mandate we stop all medical service to the elderly" to stick.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 4 2020 01:00pm)

Gonna be hard for a criticism that consists of "He didn't mandate we stop all medical service to the elderly" to stick.

Quote (thundercock @ Aug 4 2020 03:51pm)

I think the issue is that we knew that it spread like wildfire in nursing homes based on what happened in Washington (February). It would have been more prudent to let them die alone to be honest.

Quote (Skinned @ Aug 4 2020 01:42pm)

So treat them and discharge to the bus stop?

Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 4 2020 03:25pm)

Deaths update

NY 32.4k deaths

FL 7.4k deaths with decreasing daily deaths. At this point it would take a pretty significant second Florida wave to reach NY

Florida is bigger population wise and much older meaning it’s much more at risk.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 4 2020 01:48pm)

Those are two important factors, but they are not the only factors.

Poverty, population density, ratio of medical resources to population, and frequency of international travel are also huge risk factors that tip against New York.

Quote (thundercock @ Aug 4 2020 04:49pm)

There's also the time aspect. We know more NOW than we did back then. Honestly, that's why it's really embarrassing that cases/deaths in America are so fucking high.