How was Afghanistan a "special case"?

Even the assertion that the Taliban was "harboring" Al Qaeda is not particularly correct. The Taliban formed from people in Pakistan Refugee Camps during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. They received anti-Soviet educational materials and training from the US. They were effectively raised to believe in uber-nationalist ideals, while still bred into Islamic values.

The #1 issue with the Taliban after the Soviet rollout was that they had neither the level of arms or funding that the Maoists and Mujahedeen groups had. At that time, Al Qaeda offered the support of both funding and arms, as well as military training to the Taliban. Without Al Qaeda support, it's unlikely the Taliban would ever have managed to take over Afghanistan. So the more accurate case is that Al Qaeda was supporting the Taliban, as opposed to the Taliban harboring Al Qaeda.

Further, most non war-mongers don't believe for a second that the Taliban's resistance to US demands that they take action against Al Qaeda was worthy of extended occupation and the establishment of a puppet government. Al Qaeda operated independently of the Taliban, the US could very easily have targeted Al Qaeda directly without going to war against the Taliban. No, the "harboring Al Qaeda" claim was mostly an excuse to nation build in the region. In this case, "Imperialism" does seem to fit the bill, at least semi-accurately.

Say every negative thing you want about the botched withdrawal, Biden fucked up royally. However, claiming that Afghanistan was a special case is not particularly accurate. Realistically, we didn't like how the Taliban governed, and sought to replace them with our own puppet government. That government and it's attached military failed so miserably that they were overrun virtually overnight by the Taliban. AKA, American-style imperialism was tried and failed.

Man if only I had specifically asked you to acknowledge imperialism still exists we could have avoided this whole misunderstanding. Oh wait I did. When you're specifically asked to acknowledge imperialism still exists and then continue with the argument stemming from the refusal to admit imperialism exists without making the clarification, it's a totally legitimate conclusion to draw that you are attempting to defend the claim that imperialism doesn't still exist.

Instead of being dishonest just own up to your mistake and learn from it. "Oh but I can't learn from it because I'm just a contrarian at heart". Get over yourself Karen.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Aug 29 2021 01:35am

Oh fuck off with your self-important, self-righteous, inquisitory tone.

The one post in which you specifically asked me if imperialism existed is this one:

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67278491&f=119&p=573049148

It's at the bottom of a page, it appeared after I had just responded to someone else and while I was writing the lengthy, research-intensive post I made on the next page 20 minutes later. I barely even noticed your interjection. And even if I had noticed it, I would not have wasted my time responding to such a low substance fluff post which only served to stroke your ego.

"Admit you were wrong and I was right, admit you are a fool and I am so much smarter than you, admit you were wrong and I was right, admit..."
Jfc, grow up. You're slowly devolving into fender-levels of autism and obnoxiousness. Adults can take a win in a debate without rubbing it under the other's nose or trying to humiliate the other side just so they can feed their own ego.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 29 2021 01:04pm

thor is the american fender. neither provide any value to their respective societies despite all their inherent lefty privilege, both are detached from reality, have massive inferior complexes/uncharted levels of unwarranted self-importance, worship the government, and are just very unpleasant individuals in general

inb4 that user’s typical repressed frustrated homophobic retort

yeah but if I humbly took my win it wouldn't be venting my shittiness would it?

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/world/us-drone-strike-kills-nine-members-of-one-family-in-afghanistan-reports-say/ar-AANSxZ5

A US drone strike in Afghanistan on Sunday killed nine members of one family, according to local reports.

The casualties of the strike in the capital city of Kabul included six children, a relative told a local journalist working with CNN.


another disaster. WTF is going on?? 81 million lefties voted for “a return to responsible government” it seems

This post was edited by excellence on Aug 29 2021 06:04pm

Better them than our soldiers.

it seems the notion of “they bombed our troops so we bombed some kids” is not going to help our soldiers still stuck in Afghanistan

wait a second, i thought a terror attack was being prevented and it turns out being a family blown up?

nice job joe, well done

It was? Wasn't it a car with a bomb that was hit and the family was collateral damage from being in the vicinity?

Here is a quote from the article:
"We are confident we successfully hit the target. Significant secondary explosions from the vehicle indicated the presence of a substantial amount of explosive material,” Capt. Urban said.

This post was edited by thundercock on Aug 29 2021 06:17pm