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Refugees/open borders can't work in a state with government enforced welfare so that ideal is just not possible in the USA.
Yes welfare needs reform and is problematic with open borders.
Some level of refugees and immigrants certainly can work and does work, even when welfare exists.
Some are privately sponsored. Others come to work and associate with americans who contract with them and benefit us via commerce.
Bashing someone as 'not libertarian' for not closing off borders completely is invalid.
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Should the U.S. accept refugees from Syria?
Gary Johnson’s answer: Yes, but only after extensive background checks and continuous monitoring to ensure they have no terrorist connections
Nor is he for unlimited refugees.
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GILLESPIE: Let's talk about vaccines. There are no federal laws mandating vaccines, and that's how it should be, as far as you're concerned.
JOHNSON: Yes.
GILLESPIE: Various states treat vaccines differently, and you're not wild about the range of individual choice and opt-out provisions, but you do believe it's a state-level decision—or certainly that it's not a federal-level decision.
JOHNSON: Right.
GILLESPIE: There are people who say vaccines cause autism [and other problems] or that vaccines don't work. Are you in that camp?
JOHNSON: No, I chose to have my children vaccinated. I understand all the concerns that some people have, but for me personally, I made a decision to have my children vaccinated. I want people to make decisions and I believe in [opt-outs]. With the exception of a few states, everyone has an opt-out. But I also want to say that, as president of the United States, if I am confronted with a zombie apocalypse that will happen unless the total herd is totally immunized, I will support [mandatory vaccinations].
Oh zombie apocalypse vaccinations? STATIST! gottem.
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I don't care about Watson and just saw this video from a friend. The video is most definitely a hit piece and I think Gary Johnson appears unhinged as a candidate, his rhetoric is not very persuasive, and his positions seem inconsistent with libertarian ideology.
On the BLM note what about where Gary Johnson specifically goes against the narrative of "all lives matter" while supporting BLM?
Yes he is sometimes inconsistent with libertarian ideology. He has a poor libertarian knowledge base and cant always clearly explain his views. Hes flawed, for sure.
He has more experience in governing and is still the most libertarian running by far.
Speaking out against 'all lives matter' saying they miss the point isn't some heinous crime. Many ALM proponents are neocons and copsuckers..thats certainly not inherently libertarian either.
I shit on BLM supporters alot on jsp, but its another complicated issue with some valid and lousy pieces on both sides. I think the focus on race is overplayed, but there is a problem with police violence that libertarians oppose.
When you only look at the gaffes and bad moments hes going to appear worse than he is on the whole.
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This isn't talking about anti-police brutality as a whole, it's addressing BLM's talking points of racism. "No reason at all" is completely dishonest.
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to me he really comes off as a left wing SJW on a lot of issues rather than libertarian.
Yes he parrots some BLM talking points and I would have a more nuanced approach and message.
"no reason at all" appears to be a narration by someone else, not a direct quote.
As skinned noted (minus the trolling and nonsense) they aren't always mutually exclusive.
Some of it might be distasteful or we might have a difference of opinion, but thats not really the big libertarian issue.