Quote (Skinned @ May 10 2014 09:38am)

What is wrong with living harmoniously with nature rather than under British and French oppression?

Quote (Gastly @ 10 May 2014 13:09)

i should point out that some people don't quite seem to grasp the idea that in actual history science isn't measured by beakers etc., and that technology doesn't work like it does in Civilization-games.
apparently to many people civilisation itself is defined solely by the amount of powdered wigs per capita produced
when worn by whites, it's called leather, but when by blacks it's animal skins
not to mention the fact that mud (or ground) has actually been used as a building material just about everywhere on the planet (including the U.S. and the Anglosphere in general until recently). it's just the fact that white peoples' mud huts are much more civilised than black peoples' mud huts are.

Quote (dothe @ May 10 2014 10:14pm)

what in hell's manger are you talking about??

Quote (Gastly @ 10 May 2014 15:42)

the picture to which Skinned made a comment on brought some things to my mind.
people have problems in understanding history. especially african and american histories is misunderstood and misrepresented.
technology does not progress in a strict, linear fashion. characterising pre-colonial Africa as "mudhuts and savages" is idiotic because of a variety of reasons.

Quote (dothe @ May 10 2014 12:21pm)

you're right, it's closer to exponential. But i still don't understand how you could argue african societies were even close to being as advanced as european.

Quote (dothe @ May 10 2014 11:21pm)

you're right, it's closer to exponential. But i still don't understand how you could argue african societies were even close to being as advanced as european.

Quote (Skinned @ May 10 2014 10:38am)

What is wrong with living harmoniously with nature rather than under British and French oppression?

Quote (Skinned @ May 10 2014 08:38am)

What is wrong with living harmoniously with nature rather than under British and French oppression?

Quote (bogie160 @ May 10 2014 02:21pm)

Clearly a lot, because every culture that comes into contact with Western materialism adopts it.

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