d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > General Chat > Political & Religious Debate > June Bombardment Of Iran
Prev16061626364108Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
Views: 8706Replies: 1076Track Topic
Member
Posts: 34,186
Joined: May 25 2007
Gold: 21.00
Warn: 10%
#611
Jun 20 2025 03:08pm
Quote (Many_Names @ Jun 20 2025 01:54pm)
Edit:
Judaism degenerated into a perverted and corrupted form (Pharisaic Judaism, later codified as Talmudic Judaism)”
This is a polemical claim and not a historical fact.

It’s rooted in early Christian writings that were in conflict with Pharisaic Judaism.
From the Jewish perspective, Rabbinic Judaism was not a “degeneration” but a continuation and preservation of Jewish tradition after the Temple’s destruction in 70 CE.
The term “perverted” is theologically charged and not appropriate in objective historical discourse.

Christianity views Jesus as the Messiah who fulfilled the Hebrew scriptures.
Judaism rejects this claim and sees the David line as continuing in a future, not-yet-arrived Messiah.
Both religions claim continuity with ancient Israelite religion—but interpret it differently.


That is of course my two cents

One thing that confuses me, and I'm curious as to your thoughts, why Jews in the present do not accept that Jesus was the Messiah? With the benefit of 2,000 years of hindsight, Christiandom has categorically made the world a better place, the present State of Israel itself being formed with tremendous aid from great Christian benefactors (e.g. the USA and Britain). Is this not material proof that Jesus was authentic?
Member
Posts: 17,996
Joined: Dec 3 2006
Gold: 0.00
#612
Jun 20 2025 03:24pm
Quote (El1te @ 21 Jun 2025 00:08)
That is of course my two cents

One thing that confuses me, and I'm curious as to your thoughts, why Jews in the present do not accept that Jesus was the Messiah? With the benefit of 2,000 years of hindsight, Christiandom has categorically made the world a better place, the present State of Israel itself being formed with tremendous aid from great Christian benefactors (e.g. the USA and Britain). Is this not material proof that Jesus was authentic?


Judaism Massiah conditions:

Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5–6)
Rebuild the Holy Temple in Jerusalem (Ezekiel 37:26–28)
Bring universal peace – “Nation shall not lift up sword against nation” (Isaiah 2:4)
Spread universal knowledge of God (Zechariah 14:9)

Jesus didnt do any of these
Member
Posts: 34,186
Joined: May 25 2007
Gold: 21.00
Warn: 10%
#613
Jun 20 2025 03:26pm
Quote (Many_Names @ Jun 20 2025 02:24pm)
Judaism Massiah conditions:

Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5–6)
Rebuild the Holy Temple in Jerusalem (Ezekiel 37:26–28)
Bring universal peace – “Nation shall not lift up sword against nation” (Isaiah 2:4)
Spread universal knowledge of God (Zechariah 14:9)

Jesus didnt do any of these


1) He did do that, like I said, the present state of Israel was formed by Christians

2) Blame the Muslims, they still need to be driven out. Be patient grasshopper, their time shall come!

3) He did this too. The present world order is a Christian world order, with American ships patrolling the high seas.

4) He did this in full. His followers translated & printed The Holy Bible and distributed it across the 4 corners of the world.

All of this reeks to me of the sin of impatience. Do Jews really expect Him to make all this happen in an instant?

This post was edited by El1te on Jun 20 2025 03:29pm
Member
Posts: 670
Joined: Nov 4 2021
Gold: 0.00
#614
Jun 20 2025 03:47pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jun 20 2025 01:31pm)
So because it’s not the same state as 2000 years ago it shouldn’t exist? Argument could be made for literally any sovereign. What a low iq clap back.



Why would you use it to justify your support for a state that calls itself Israel, if it makes zero sense that they are related other than the label? More irony with the Low IQ comment, you don't even know your own religion that you said is a cornerstone for your support for "Israel". How would that argument be made anywhere else in current times? What are you even saying LOL


Quote (ofthevoid @ Jun 20 2025 01:31pm)
And lmao at neckbeard comment. Let me guess some really enlightened atheist is going to break down what I should believe now 🤣


An Orthodox Jew explaining what their opinion on Israel is an enlightened atheist?

Please, tell us more about your high IQ with a clean shaved neck.

This post was edited by kingkawn on Jun 20 2025 03:47pm
Member
Posts: 34,186
Joined: May 25 2007
Gold: 21.00
Warn: 10%
#615
Jun 20 2025 03:51pm
Quote (kingkawn @ Jun 20 2025 02:47pm)
Why would you use it to justify your support for a state that calls itself Israel, if it makes zero sense that they are related other than the label? More irony with the Low IQ comment, you don't even know your own religion that you said is a cornerstone for your support for "Israel". How would that argument be made anywhere else in current times? What are you even saying LOL




An Orthodox Jew explaining what their opinion on Israel is an enlightened atheist?

Please, tell us more about your high IQ with a clean shaved neck.


You're a Judeo-Bolshevist.

Many_Names
these people are the enemy of humanity & Israel included
Member
Posts: 34,186
Joined: May 25 2007
Gold: 21.00
Warn: 10%
#616
Jun 20 2025 03:53pm
Some more tidbits about Judeo-Bolshevism, also known as International Jewry, Jewish Cosmopolitanism, etc.

These people are descended from those Jews who lost faith in God and turned instead to Satanism, they're behind the majority of the world's wars, and have been recognized as the enemy across the globe including from such great men as Walt Disney, Henry Ford, and Bobby Fischer
Member
Posts: 670
Joined: Nov 4 2021
Gold: 0.00
#617
Jun 20 2025 03:54pm
Quote (El1te @ Jun 20 2025 02:51pm)
You're a Judeo-Bolshevist.

^Many_Names these people are the enemy of humanity & Israel included


Definitely not a friend of Israel.

Humanity? Lol read the room :rolleyes:
Member
Posts: 34,186
Joined: May 25 2007
Gold: 21.00
Warn: 10%
#618
Jun 20 2025 03:56pm
Quote (kingkawn @ Jun 20 2025 02:54pm)
Definitely not a friend of Israel.

Humanity? Lol read the room :rolleyes:


Of course not. You're a Bolshevist. An enemy of Israel like I said, and an enemy of humanity.

This post was edited by El1te on Jun 20 2025 03:57pm
Member
Posts: 670
Joined: Nov 4 2021
Gold: 0.00
#619
Jun 20 2025 03:58pm
This post is a violation of the site rules and appropriate action was taken.

Quote (El1te @ Jun 20 2025 02:56pm)
Of course not. You're a Bolshevist.


Sorry I don't know how to respond, you seem to be displaying symptoms of some mental illnesses?
Member
Posts: 34,186
Joined: May 25 2007
Gold: 21.00
Warn: 10%
#620
Jun 20 2025 03:59pm
Quote (kingkawn @ Jun 20 2025 02:58pm)
Sorry I don't know how to respond, you seem to be displaying symptoms of some mental illnesses?


I don't give a single damn what you think, your ilk belong in hard labour camps
Go Back To Political & Religious Debate Topic List
Prev16061626364108Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll

© 2003-2026 d2jsp  Contact