Quote (gnarjay @ Jan 3 2024 05:37pm)

even this hypocrisy must make you chuckle, eh goomer?


the minnesota capitol storming was ALSO done by trumpets, Tim Kaine's son was a counter-protestor. did Fox news leave that detail out? they must have. huh, i wonder why

Quote (YeeHaw @ 4 Jan 2024 00:48)

Oh, no. Joe Biden totally didn’t start his campaign on the lie that Donald trump praised white supremacists, and the entire democrat party didn’t fuel a race war until Joe Biden was elected president.


The race riots were in no way, shape, or form fueled and allowed to continue in order to influence the upcoming election.

Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 3 2024 04:29pm)

That's completely false. I can give you benefit of the doubt for not knowing the details about an event from 7 years ago in my state, but as it happens I know about it
The pro-Trump crowd of ~300 held a legal, permitted political rally in celebration of Trump's win at the capitol. You know, like how peaceful law abiding citizens are supposed to show political support?
They were attacked by a group of ~50 anti-Trump rioters who tried to assault the pro-Trump crowd, blowing airhorns and whistles and chants, throwing fireworks and smoke bombs at them, but it dispersed mostly without incident since the pro-Trump people weren't interested in fighting. However a group of ~6 black bloc Antifa members in full regalia broke off and stormed the capitol building, setting off explosives and smoke bombs. Tim Kaine's son was in that group, was chased down by police, he tried to run from them, then when they caught up he fought them, continued to fight even as he was pepper sprayed and only brought down by taking a few knee strikes.
Every single person arrested was from the Antifa group

Quote (gnarjay @ Jan 3 2024 06:39pm)

so "assaulting" people (LOL) with loud chants and airhorns and whistles is not ok but storming the actual US Capitol in Washington with guns and mace, doing millions of dollars in damage and killing multiple police officers IS ok. got it
its hard to keep track of the goomlogic but I think Im getting it. my side= good, your side= bad

Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 3 2024 04:48pm)

Sure as long as we're talking about things that never happened, remember when antifa summoned Cthulu to stride across the eastern seaboard with his army of black iridescent shoggoths, carrying away innocent men women and children as sacrifices to the deep ones as fel payment for transmogrification into their eternal servents in the great cyclopean Y'ha-nthlei? Boy, was pretty hard for the antifa apologists to try to brush that one aside

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 3 2024 02:58pm)

So attacks on public and/or democratic institutions are okay as long they don't directly involve elections, is that the point you're making?

The BLM riots throughout the summer of 2020 clearly had the purpose of changing the country's political and policy trajectory via violence (or the implicit threat thereof). And they succeeded: black turnout was supercharged and helped defeat Trump in November that year; upscale suburbanites as well as Corporate America came around to fully embrace wokism, turned on Trump and Republicans once and for all.

The BLM riots were just about as undemocratic as the storming of the Capitol - both events sought to achieve a political outcome by using violence to bypass the usual, democratic process. And both events were based on false and inflammatory narratives: Trump's claim of a 'stolen election' and BLM's claim that the United States in the year 2020 were still an "impossibly, irredeemably racist society which had barely made any true progress since the Jim Crow era". The only difference is that the grievance which set off the respective event was more justified in the case of the race riots (outrage over the murder of George Floyd) than for Jan 6 (outrage over having lost the 2020 election).

Quote (YeeHaw @ Jan 3 2024 03:48pm)

I am talking about a literal by definition insurrection.



Oh, no. Joe Biden totally didn’t start his campaign on the lie that Donald trump praised white supremacists, and the entire democrat party didn’t fuel a race war until Joe Biden was elected president.


The race riots were in no way, shape, or form fueled and allowed to continue in order to influence the upcoming election.




Holy shit dude.

Quote (theCrossbones @ 4 Jan 2024 02:45)

where did i say that?

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They were not trying to overthrow the government they were trying to loot which is shit, rob which is shit.

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and America is still at is core full of racists.. sorry I know you think you know better but nope. sorry

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 3 2024 05:58pm)

You introduced an additional condition for violent political protest to be yuck-no-good: that it had the intention and motivation to change an election. The logical implication is that violent political protest which doesn't try to change an election is okay, or at least substantially less bad.


A subset of the rioters were looters who just wanted to loot, but there were also many others motivated by promoting their political goals (e.g. "defund the police" or "reparations now").


Like that?
https://i.redd.it/y5w1l299h8ac1.jpeg

Quote (gnarjay @ Jan 3 2024 03:42pm)

what do you think his ongoing trials are for??