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I honestly wish the US didn't need to be involved in what is happening over there... It brings out the worst in people in general. I feel that lots of people here and in the world in general don't read much about war and strife... They don't do well at looking at all perspectives or even weighing their own morality and thoughts into the scenarios and often make judgements on little information... Especially when they specifically study one perspective that they are biased towards.

War is war and it is bad.... Citizens are never separated from war... The army is made up of citizens... They all grew up in the same way and are influenced in the same way... It is just not a good thing in general...
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Quote (gnarjay @ Nov 19 2023 01:12pm)
so the estimate is now 15,000 - 20,000

6,400 were children
3,500 were women
70+ were journalists
101 were UN staff (the most ever killed in the UN's 78 year history)

https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/friday-17-november-twenty-thousand-palestinians-believed-be-killed-israels-genocide-gaza

you tell me how many Hamas have been killed? doesnt seem like very many based on the numbers in that report....seems more like genocide, or maybe Israel is just comically terrible at killing Hamas too ?


A 14 year old child is often a militant in Gaza. Anyways, my point is made. You tried to castigate Israel by claiming they were essentially all "innocent" "civilians" who've been killed, when in reality we don't know. What we do know is that people who are doing the fighting are amongst civilians.

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"From the river to the sea." ~ US Representative Rashida Tlaib, echoing the Hamas charter stating that one day all of Palestine will be free, from the river to the sea. This isn't possible without the destruction of Israel.
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Quote (gnarjay @ 19 Nov 2023 20:15)


Ah yes he really said that... Total hate speech, and oh... Likud of course (i hope i will not get suspended again for saying this !!!! )

Kallner was described as a "hard-right member of Netanyahu’s own Likud party" by the The Times of Israel owing to his championing of a controversial bill that would have hindered the ability of NGOs to receive foreign funding.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Kallner

Btw at nearly same time he said this:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/10/09/israel-palestine-gaza-hamas-invasion-genocide-united-states/#cookie_message_anchor
"U.S. support for Israel’s incursion could enable mass atrocities."

Well what we have now ? 12 000 Palestinians killed ? for 200 hostages ? Fantastic, don't suspend me please f.

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But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images,

the star of your god,

which ye made to yourselves.





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Why dont you quote Hamas officals?
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Nov 19 2023 02:54pm
Quote (Santara @ 19 Nov 2023 20:55)
I love the emotional loaded terms used by you Hamas apologists. How many of those 11,000 are Hamas combatants?


They use the hospital as bass, these people have no limits
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Quote (Santara @ Nov 19 2023 01:55pm)
I love the emotional loaded terms used by you Hamas apologists. How many of those 11,000 are Hamas combatants?


You've really lost your way

When ~8000 of the 11500 deaths are women and children, and they're extensively bombing heavily populated residential areas and hospitals, you can be certain nowhere close to a majority of the 11500 are Hamas combatants.
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You've really lost your way

When ~8000 of the 11500 deaths are women and children, and they're extensively bombing heavily populated residential areas and hospitals, you can be certain nowhere close to a majority of the 11500 are Hamas combatants.


A 14 year old boy in Gaza can be both a child and a militant. There is no such thing as "not a heavily populated area" in Gaza. What's the proper and measured response to a mass attack that kills 1200 of your citizens? Take it on the chin and say, "maybe we deserved that?"
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