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Quote (said_aouita @ Nov 14 2023 12:00pm)
Nothing tops a political picture thread than Donald trumps mug shot.

https://i.imgur.com/5FJukYA.jpg
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I can top that...


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Nov 14 2023 11:43am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 14 2023 09:57am)
Well, the inflation rate in January 2022 stood at 5.1% in both the eurozone and Canada, 0.5% in Japan, 3.6% in South Korea and 3.5% in Australia.... but 7.5% in the United States. (I'm choosing January 2022 as the reference point because it's the last month before the war in Ukraine broke out, causing turmoil on the global energy markets which hit some countries far more than others.)

So it seems fair to me to argue that the overstimulus by the US government is indeed responsible for a sizable chunk of the inflation that Americans have suffered since 2021.


But that 7.5% figure in the USA does not include energy? Im pretty sure that does, so im comparing apples to apples.



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But that 7.5% figure in the USA does not include energy? Im pretty sure that does, so im comparing apples to apples.


The overall inflation rate which includes everything, from food over clothes and electronics to energy, stood at 7.5% in the US in Jan22 while it stood at 5.1% in the Eurozone and Canada. In most of the rest of the OECD (SK, JAP, AUS etc.), it was even lower. (The OECD average is heavily skewed by a single outlier, namely Turkey's 48% inflation rate...)

It's not that hard, man...

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 14 2023 12:22pm
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Wtf is a eurozone and who cares. Let’s be a bit more specific

US September 2022 core high - 6.6%
Current 4.03%, long term average 3.68

Germany June 2023 core high - 5.8%
Current 4.3%, long term average 1.62%

Canada July 2022 core high 5.5%
Current 3.2% , long term average 3.55%

UK may 2024 core high 6.5%
Current 6.1% , long term average 1.9%

France April 2023 core high 6.3%
Current 5.0%, long term average 1.48%

All data per ychart and tradingeconomics as sources, they were both within 0.25% for all values but mostly the same

Using Asian numbers is moronic, Japan especially, even more moronic when trying to compare first world inflation problems. Their case has been unique to the rest of the first world, for the worse, for the last 20-30years

And I included a few of Europe’s major economies not the shit tier ones


Canada > US > Germany >France >UK

In fact Europe is doing terrible and this is core so energy excuse is excluded, Germany a bit better and more on par with US

Of course that’s in regards to inflation goal being 2%. As much as it is the US goal, We are just better consumers compared to the rest of the world. so our actual longer term inflation rate of 3.6 we are already close to

Gg, America wins (well, still rlly Canada)

Jerome Powell Nobel prize tho

Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 13 2023 12:55pm)
i have to laugh when people think some perfect leader could have threaded the needle and steered us through the storm with far more grace.

-keep everything open, no lockdowns
-make old people stay inside, but not by law, just convince them in millions
-no masks, TYRANNY
-no money printing, let businesses fail if need be, muh free market!
-J&J vaccine only, any maybe not that, tis just a flu afterall
-much success, merica wins


many mistakes were made but holy fuck none of that would have ever worked.


I can’t remember the covid stats country to country but in regards to
Who won the economic fight comparing country to country US and Canada have won. Too many dumb America haters, whom are mostly American smh

Canada actually will be easing before the US. This is your actual leading indicator to rate cuts in the US.


This post was edited by Bazi on Nov 14 2023 12:33pm
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Wtf is a eurozone and who cares. Let’s be a bit more specific

US September 2022 core high - 6.6%
Current 4.03%, long term average 3.68

Germany June 2023 core high - 5.8%
Current 4.3%, long term average 1.62%

Canada July 2022 core high 5.5%
Current 3.2% , long term average 3.55%

UK may 2024 core high 6.5%
Current 6.1% , long term average 1.9%

France April 2023 core high 6.3%
Current 5.0%, long term average 1.48%

All data per ychart and tradingeconomics as sources, they were both within 0.25% for all values but mostly the same

Using Asian numbers is moronic, Japan especially, even more moronic when trying to compare first world inflation problems. Their case has been unique to the rest of the first world, for the worse, for the last 20-30years

And I included a few of Europe’s major economies not the shit tier ones


Canada > US > Germany >France >UK

In fact Europe is doing terrible and this is core so energy excuse is excluded, Germany a bit better and more on par with US

Of course that’s in regards to inflation goal being 2%. As much as it is the US goal, We are just better consumers compared to the rest of the world. so our actual longer term inflation rate of 3.6 we are already close to

Gg, America wins

Jerome Powell Nobel prize


- The Eurozone is the economic region which uses the Euro as its currency.

- Peak inflation numbers, as well as current numbers, in most of Europe are due to the disproportionate impact of the war on Ukraine on these economies since they relied far more heavily on Russian energy supplies than other countries. Hence, it's not really feasible to draw a fair connection between fiscal/economic policy and inflation rates beyond January 2022. Note that energy prices affect everything else, including electricity bills of retailers or costs along the logistics chain. Therefore, even the goods and services on which core inflation is based are still affected to some degree by surging energy prices.

- Japan might be an outlier, but other OECD economies like South Korea, Canada and Australia are a fair comparison for the US.

- I wouldn't frame it as Americans being "better consumers" than the rest of the world, I would frame it as "being more willing to spend money they don't have". Credit card debt and the national debt are exorbitant in the US. ;)

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 14 2023 01:08pm
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- The Eurozone is the economic region which uses the Euro as its currency.

- Peak inflation numbers, as well as current numbers, in most of Europe are due to the disproportionate impact of the war on Ukraine on these economies since they relied far more heavily on Russian energy supplies than other countries. Hence, it's not really feasible to draw a fair connection between fiscal/economic policy and inflation rates beyond January 2022. Note that energy prices affect everything else, including electricity bills of retailers or costs along the logistics chain. Therefore, even the goods and services on which core inflation is based are still affected to some degree by surging energy prices.

- Japan might be an outlier, but other OECD economies like South Korea, Canada and Australia are a fair comparison for the US.

- I wouldn't frame it as Americans being "better consumers" than the rest of the world, I would frame it as "being more willing to spend money they don't have". Credit card debt and the national debt are exorbitant in the US. ;)


1st point, ok I still don’t care about 2nd class countries

2nd point, you can argued core is flawed, regardless of that metric there isn’t a metric out there core , cpi, etc to suggest European central bankers were superior. Nothing short of the word disaster should describe UKs current numbers

3rd point , feel free to add South Korean and Australian core high, current , and longer term average to the mix

4th point , I didn’t say more fiscally responsible. I said better consumer. These are not mutually exclusive
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Quote (Malopox @ 14 Nov 2023 15:18)


Fuck what an amazing president

he spends 20 minutes with Xi and all of a sudden Xi agrees to do whatever Biden wants, good thing Biden only wants to help the people and stop Fentanyl.

Fucking god damn what a great president.
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Nov 14 2023 02:41pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 14 2023 11:21am)
The overall inflation rate which includes everything, from food over clothes and electronics to energy, stood at 7.5% in the US in Jan22 while it stood at 5.1% in the Eurozone and Canada. In most of the rest of the OECD (SK, JAP, AUS etc.), it was even lower. (The OECD average is heavily skewed by a single outlier, namely Turkey's 48% inflation rate...)

It's not that hard, man...


Sorry, Canada over publishes with the exact same page with a slightly different name.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/230117/dq230117b-eng.htm 6.8% but its average annual CPI
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Nov 14 2023 03:44pm
Quote (Crunkt @ 13 Nov 2023 19:00)




Bidenomics are underwater even with Democrats, lmao!
How out of touch do you need to be to tell 86% of the country that they're morons too stupid to realize the awesomeness of their economic situation? ^_^



OG source: https://www.ft.com/content/c17c35a3-e030-4e3b-9f49-c6bdf7d3da7f
Source without paywall: https://themessenger.com/politics/just-14-of-voters-say-they-are-better-off-financially-under-biden-poll

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