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Sep 22 2022 05:11pm
Quote (ferdia @ Sep 6 2022 04:15pm)
England has long term and serious economic problems. When the Brexit Debate was at its height, those pushing for Brexit acknowledged that if they succeeded with Brexit, England would take at least 10 years to recover economically from it. In terms of economic forecasting - they did not carry out forecast models because they knew the models would be doom and gloom.

The whole point of Brexit was that a minority in England had been pushing an agenda, for decades, to go it alone. they were never happy in the EU, and certainly did not want to be told what to do.

Boris Johnson was an irresponsible leader that talked his way in and out of trouble, until he could no longer wash the shit away. The only reason he became PM was because he was seen, like donald trump, as a winning ticket. Liz Truss is a die-hard Boris fan. She stuck by him to the bitter end. she is not expected to row back on her plans to break the northern ireland protocol, or to send an olive branch to Labor, never mind to the EU, Ireland or Scotland. I dont see her making the same gaffs as boris but I also dont expect much from her. There needs to be an entire shake up of her party but thats a pipe dream, ergo, they are up creek without a sound paddle.

The key issues over the next 2-3 years that she will face are:

Keeping as many english families above the poverty line, and growing england economically
Keeping Scotland in the Union
Northern Ireland
Relationship with the EU

she tends to not welcome/listen to people of a different view, a trait not suitable in a politician.


Agree with the key issues facing the UK government and its second unelected conservative PM in recent years.

What are similarly key issues facing the EU in the near future? Perhaps,
Energy security
Inflation
Unemployment/ stagnation in south EU economies

How serious are concerns of water shortages in Italy, Germany or Spain?
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Sep 23 2022 02:05am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Sep 23 2022 12:11am)
Agree with the key issues facing the UK government and its second unelected conservative PM in recent years.

What are similarly key issues facing the EU in the near future? Perhaps,
Energy security
Inflation
Unemployment/ stagnation in south EU economies

How serious are concerns of water shortages in Italy, Germany or Spain?


The European Union was created as a result of post-war cooperation in Europe to ensure peace, prosperity, and stability on the continent. For the most past this has worked, while accepting the current crisis. And yes there is a current crisis.

In response to your question, the key challenges the EU faces are social and political, married together. i.e. unemployment & poverty on the one hand and politicians being out of touch with their people on the other, spending more time on global or regional affairs and not enough worthwhile and meaningful time and effort on their own country. The knock on impacts this has at a government level is that parties and individuals of extreme views come into power via "protest votes" thereby destabilising the country further, and the people lap it all up because these new parties are perceived for a time to be better - until the shit hits the fan.

So in summary if you want a single key issue, its the EU's ability to remain relevant and have free international trade (it really is all about trade and prosperity - happy people dont complain as much).

This post was edited by ferdia on Sep 23 2022 02:09am
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Sep 23 2022 03:29am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Sep 23 2022 01:11am)
Agree with the key issues facing the UK government and its second unelected conservative PM in recent years.

What are similarly key issues facing the EU in the near future? Perhaps,
Energy security
Inflation
Unemployment/ stagnation in south EU economies

How serious are concerns of water shortages in Italy, Germany or Spain?


the main problem of the EU is pretty simple

with the deindustrialisation of germany the main net contributor wont be able to pull the carriage in the near future
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Sep 23 2022 03:40am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Sep 23 2022 10:29am)
the main problem of the EU is pretty simple

with the deindustrialisation of germany the main net contributor wont be able to pull the carriage in the near future


Which deindustrialisation? I wasn't aware that was happening.

Perhaps another layer or beaurocracy could be the solution. An inception of governance.
A higher echelon council where only the most european of european countries will be permitted. Like Spain, France or Israel.
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Sep 23 2022 03:43am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Sep 23 2022 11:40am)
Which deindustrialisation? I wasn't aware that was happening.

Perhaps another layer or beaurocracy could be the solution. An inception of governance.
A higher echelon council where only the most european of european countries will be permitted. Like Spain, France or Israel.


entire industrial complexes from multiple fields (chemistry, metallurgical) have shut down their production due to exploding energy costs and lack of material
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Sep 23 2022 07:44am
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1573251301084995584?t=BKcCCPUj_wOfWcbWeojRkg&s=19

von der leyen and her opinion on democratic elections ^_^

they are saying it to your face, wake up
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Sep 23 2022 04:57pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 23 Sep 2022 15:44)
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1573251301084995584?t=BKcCCPUj_wOfWcbWeojRkg&s=19

von der leyen and her opinion on democratic elections ^_^

they are saying it to your face, wake up


what did she say to our face about democratic election that is so outrageous?
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Sep 23 2022 05:20pm
Quote (fender @ Sep 24 2022 12:57am)
what did she say to our face about democratic election that is so outrageous?


it was a clear threat: stupid italians, if you dont vote what we want, we have "tools" to punish you

she literally says, that its the "right direction" or the "difficult direction" for them

unreal, absolutely no shame and thats coming from a woman, who was not elected for her current post :lol:

of course you know this, but you asked this fenderp question to start something again
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Sep 23 2022 05:33pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 23 Sep 2022 11:43)
entire industrial complexes from multiple fields (chemistry, metallurgical) have shut down their production due to exploding energy costs and lack of material



Could you corroborate that statement? Right now, enterprises in our country do face difficulties and there may even be partial shutdowns of production capacities, but where's the catastrophe you're insinuating?
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Sep 24 2022 02:37am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 24 Sep 2022 01:20)
it was a clear threat: stupid italians, if you dont vote what we want, we have "tools" to punish you

she literally says, that its the "right direction" or the "difficult direction" for them

unreal, absolutely no shame and thats coming from a woman, who was not elected for her current post :lol:

of course you know this, but you asked this fenderp question to start something again


you really turned full facebook karen, haven't you? everything is a grand conspiracy, everyone is out to get you: scientists, politicians, big pharma, the EU, migrants, LGBTQ people...

meanwhile in reality, her "threat" is simply: if you're gonna break EU rules (something that right wing populists in various countries constantly promise / vow / suggest in order to gain votes from gullible simpletons), we're not just gonna take it any more.

if you had ACTUALLY listened to her speech, and not just the spin that a fellow karen of yours put on it, you'd realise that she said "we work with whoever - the only condition is to adhere to DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLES". the pearl clutching about that from people who usually like to portray themselves as "rule of law" guys is hilarious.

it's about time. the EU is not gonna fund the corruption and exploits of lazy right wing populists, who defy it every step of the way, any longer. the likes of hungary and poland have been getting away with it for too long. undermining democratic principles and people's rights should not be rewarded. ideally, those governments would just finally go through with their "threats" to leave, but they were unfortunately always empty. those grifters KNOW they need our money, they just play strong man to impress bigoted dumbasses. in reality, they are well aware that their countries will turn into even bigger shitholes once they aren't part of the union any more. so they talk big, but never go through with it (where did i see that before, hm?). not surprised that people like you fall for that though...
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