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Taliban Vaccination rate 0.7%.

But they still won the war!!!!!!!

I don't understand!!!!!11!!!
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That's the inconvenient truth the climate activists and their political surrogates still need to understand: there currently is no, and for the foreseeable future will be no appetite among the broader public for the huge sacrifices in terms of purchasing power and quality of life that the implementation of their climate agenda would entail.

The kinds of policies needed to rein in climate change via sacrifice and regulations alone will never be able to find democratic majorities before it's already too late. It will not be possible, from a realpolitik point of view, to solve climate change without technological breakthroughs.
It really is similar to the covid crisis, where NPIs and lockdowns alone were also unable to solve the issue and we had to wait for a medical solution in the form of vaccines and treatments.


I think alternative energy sources should and will continue to develop and slowly take market share from fossil fuels, and that's the way it should be. Like I lean right but by no means am I anti-green energy. I don't understand the either/or extremist perspectives on this. Let oil slowly lose market share over the next 50 years until we get some equilibrium. On the other side you have sky is falling folk who unless we went 100% green yesterday we are all going to die in 7 years, also dumb. The future is probably going to be a health mix and there's nothing wrong with that.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 26 2021 02:39am)
That's the inconvenient truth the climate activists and their political surrogates still need to understand: there currently is no, and for the foreseeable future will be no appetite among the broader public for the huge sacrifices in terms of purchasing power and quality of life that the implementation of their climate agenda would entail.

The kinds of policies needed to rein in climate change via sacrifice and regulations alone will never be able to find democratic majorities before it's already too late. It will not be possible, from a realpolitik point of view, to solve climate change without technological breakthroughs.
It really is similar to the covid crisis, where NPIs and lockdowns alone were also unable to solve the issue and we had to wait for a medical solution in the form of vaccines and treatments.


thats a big IF however, what we are talking about here are only models and forecasts by people who have constantly been wrong

most of the climate change brigade does not care about the climate whatsoever, its a way to enforce socialism, because the old rich vs poor narrative is not working anymore

we will see what happens, the reality is: emissions will continue to go up for years to come
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I think alternative energy sources should and will continue to develop and slowly take market share from fossil fuels, and that's the way it should be. Like I lean right but by no means am I anti-green energy. I don't understand the either/or extremist perspectives on this. Let oil slowly lose market share over the next 50 years until we get some equilibrium. On the other side you have sky is falling folk who unless we went 100% green yesterday we are all going to die in 7 years, also dumb. The future is probably going to be a health mix and there's nothing wrong with that.


Green energy $80/MWH

Fossil fuels $45/MWH
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 25 2021 05:39pm)
That's the inconvenient truth the climate activists and their political surrogates still need to understand: there currently is no, and for the foreseeable future will be no appetite among the broader public for the huge sacrifices in terms of purchasing power and quality of life that the implementation of their climate agenda would entail.

The kinds of policies needed to rein in climate change via sacrifice and regulations alone will never be able to find democratic majorities before it's already too late. It will not be possible, from a realpolitik point of view, to solve climate change without technological breakthroughs.
It really is similar to the covid crisis, where NPIs and lockdowns alone were also unable to solve the issue and we had to wait for a medical solution in the form of vaccines and treatments.


COVID CRISIS???
4.46 million world wide in 20 months
records show "covid" was here as early as dec 2019
that would be two hundred twenty-three thousand per month
world population 7.9 billion
two hundred twenty-three thousand/7.9 billion
=
0.00002822784 or 0.002822784% round up to 0.003% of the populaton per month

thats your covid crisis by their numbers which have been inflated. this we know they are liars.

4million just isnt that big of a number considering 7.9 billion

they count on the people not considering the actual population

"they"?
published book
july 2020 klaus schawb covid and the great reset


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I think alternative energy sources should and will continue to develop and slowly take market share from fossil fuels, and that's the way it should be. Like I lean right but by no means am I anti-green energy. I don't understand the either/or extremist perspectives on this. Let oil slowly lose market share over the next 50 years until we get some equilibrium. On the other side you have sky is falling folk who unless we went 100% green yesterday we are all going to die in 7 years, also dumb. The future is probably going to be a health mix and there's nothing wrong with that.


Absolutely agreed with the bolded - it's just that this pace won't be good enough to keep global warming below 2.5° or so. Which is a reality that we need to start preparing for. The 1.5° goal is a complete pipe dream and even 2° seem unattainable without gigantic sacrifice.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 25 2021 07:57pm
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Absolutely agreed with the bolded - it's just that this pace won't be good enough to keep global warming below 2.5° or so. Which is a reality that we need to start preparing for. The 1.5° goal is a complete pipe dream and even 2° seem unattainable without gigantic sacrifice.


just like covid we will always come up short and ........put the mask back on
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 25 2021 07:58pm)
I think alternative energy sources should and will continue to develop and slowly take market share from fossil fuels, and that's the way it should be. Like I lean right but by no means am I anti-green energy. I don't understand the either/or extremist perspectives on this. Let oil slowly lose market share over the next 50 years until we get some equilibrium. On the other side you have sky is falling folk who unless we went 100% green yesterday we are all going to die in 7 years, also dumb. The future is probably going to be a health mix and there's nothing wrong with that.


This would have been fine if we had funded the necessary green energy initiatives fifty years ago when it became apparent this was going to be a problem. The reason we have "radicals" is because dolts like you fell for propaganda for fifty years so we couldn't start talking about solutions until 2015. Gradual steps work over the course of 50 years. They will not work over the course of 5 years, which is what we need to eliminate the worst damages associated with global warming.

Fact is, we're going to have to make radical switches away from oil, or be prepared to eat the consequences of continued use. Neither will be cheap, neither will be "economically viable", and the reason we're likely going to have to do both is because conservatives the world over listened to fossil fuel propaganda instead of scientists.

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This would have been fine if we had funded the necessary green energy initiatives fifty years ago when it became apparent this was going to be a problem. The reason we have "radicals" is because dolts like you fell for propaganda for fifty years so we couldn't start talking about solutions until 2015. Gradual steps work over the course of 50 years. They will not work over the course of 5 years, which is what we need to eliminate the worst damages associated with global warming.

Fact is, we're going to have to make radical switches away from oil, or be prepared to eat the consequences of continued use. Neither will be cheap, neither will be "economically viable", and the reason we're likely going to have to do both is because conservatives the world over listened to fossil fuel propaganda instead of scientists.


your going to live in a pod and eat bugs while gates gona eat hamburgers pump out carbon like no tomorrow as he revisits pedo island laughing at u.
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