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Nov 19 2023 06:06am
Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 19 2023 08:03am)
Does jews have the right for their own country?
Does jews have the right for self defense?

No, why would a religion have some inherent right to a country? Seems silly to me, especially if it comes at the expense of another group of people.

Again, if your definition of "self defense" includes ethnic cleansing than no they do not.
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Nov 19 2023 06:08am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 19 Nov 2023 14:06)
No, why would a religion have some inherent right to a country? Seems silly to me, especially if it comes at the expense of another group of people.

Again, if your definition of "self defense" includes ethnic cleansing than no they do not.


Jews are both ethnicity and religion
Again does jews have the right for self determination
I asked if they have the right for self defense didnt say anything else you automatically assume I mean ethnic clensing?

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Nov 19 2023 06:19am
Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 19 2023 08:08am)
Jews are both ethnicity and religion
Again does jews have the right for self determination
I asked if they have the right for self defense didnt say anything else you automatically assume I mean ethnic clensing?


Sure, but not all jews are religious and not all people who practice Judaism are ethnic jews so what does that really mean? I could become a jew today. If all the Palestinians became jews would you consider killing them a bad thing then?

Again? You haven't asked this, and jews have as much a right to self determination as Palestinians or any other group, the complications come when one groups self determination comes at the expense of anothers, like what has happened in Israel.

I don't care what you mean, the reality is that "Israeli self defense" amounts to the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from their land.
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Nov 19 2023 06:32am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Nov 19 2023 12:06pm)
No, why would a religion have some inherent right to a country? Seems silly to me, especially if it comes at the expense of another group of people.

Again, if your definition of "self defense" includes ethnic cleansing than no they do not.


And the penny finally drops :rofl:
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Nov 19 2023 06:35am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 19 2023 08:32am)
And the penny finally drops :rofl:

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Nov 19 2023 06:35am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 19 Nov 2023 14:19)
Sure, but not all jews are religious and not all people who practice Judaism are ethnic jews so what does that really mean? I could become a jew today. If all the Palestinians became jews would you consider killing them a bad thing then?

Again? You haven't asked this, and jews have as much a right to self determination as Palestinians or any other group, the complications come when one groups self determination comes at the expense of anothers, like what has happened in Israel.

I don't care what you mean, the reality is that "Israeli self defense" amounts to the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from their land.


The question is very simple yet you try and dodge.
I am a secular jew.
Judaism is not islam nor christianity we do not try to convert anyone so those who convert chose it and were not forced to.
If someone is convert and wants to tie his destiny with my destiny he is very welcom.

There is not a single proof Israel is ethnically clensing palestinians yet you keep repeating it as if its a fact.

If you want to debate the subject you first have to accept the fact Israel as the right to exist as the home of the Jewish people.
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Nov 19 2023 06:37am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 19 Nov 2023 14:32)
And the penny finally drops :rofl:


He doesnt even realize 🤦
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Nov 19 2023 06:41am
Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 19 2023 08:35am)
The question is very simple yet you try and dodge.
I am a secular jew.
Judaism is not islam nor christianity we do not try to convert anyone so those who convert chose it and were not forced to.
If someone is convert and wants to tie his destiny with my destiny he is very welcom.

There is not a single proof Israel is ethnically clensing palestinians yet you keep repeating it as if its a fact.

If you want to debate the subject you first have to accept the fact Israel as the right to exist as the home of the Jewish people.

I haven't dodged anything, you on the other hand ignore every question posed to you lol, not sure if there is a language barrier or something.

I'm sure there isn't any evidence if your only news source is the fucking IDF lmao

As I said I don't care if you reply or not, you don't get to dictate the terms clown.
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Nov 19 2023 06:42am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 19 Nov 2023 14:41)
I haven't dodged anything, you on the other hand ignore every question posed to you lol, not sure if there is a language barrier or something.

I'm sure there isn't any evidence if your only news source is the fucking IDF lmao

As I said I don't care if you reply or not, you don't get to dictate the terms clown.


I am not going to discuss a person who think I dont have a right for a home

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Nov 19 2023 06:50am
Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 19 2023 08:42am)
I am not going to discuss a person who think I dont have a right for a home

Lol yeah most people get shy when discussing the ethnic cleansing they support, funny about that
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