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May 7 2022 08:58am
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Yes, all these organizations are pro-choice because legalized abortion has really decreased the deaths related to abortion and they feel no need to ramp those back up again like the American right.


Any links that you can direct me to?
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May 7 2022 08:59am
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do you really think people already forgot how last time we went down that road you ended up corn-cobbing so hard, crying that only YOUR (incorrect) personal definition of murder counted? it doesn't work that way.

modern secular societies decided that a woman's right to bodily self-determination is more important than your feelings about strangers' zygotes and fetuses, and that it's not up to the government to legislate people's bodies just to appease some religious zealots. your attempts to make (flawed) biological and legal arguments won't change that, and frankly, they are rather pathetic to begin with. think whatever you like, feel whatever you like, but do yourself a favour and stop pretending like there's some kind of objective truth behind your bigoted views, there simply isn't.


I don't know how many times I need to tell you. It's not my personal feelings that it's murder. It really is murder, as I have proven using logic. You don't see it because you don't know what a syllogism is.
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modern secular societies decided that a woman's right to bodily self-determination is more important than your feelings about strangers' zygotes and fetuses, and that it's not up to the government to legislate people's bodies


false, modern societies decided abortion is murder

thats why its illegal after the first trimester , thats why you dodge this THIRD FOURTH TIME IN A ROW :rofl:



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May 7 2022 09:00am
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I don't know how many times I need to tell you. It's not my personal feelings that it's murder. It really is murder, as I have proven using logic. You don't see it because you don't know what a syllogism is.


you clearly don't know what "proof" is. your personal definitions and flawed logic aren't. stop being so obtuse.
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May 7 2022 09:01am
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I am pro-choice but I believe that abortion is indeed murder. I am here because I have too much time on my hands, lol.


Why do they have different words with different definitions in our shared language?

Why are the definitions of words important to you guys like 50% of the time. It is like believing in a omnipotent being that knows everything and loves us all creating us in his image and a whole universe for us only to end up hating half of creation, humanity, and our condition, because its not good enough for them and you need to repent.
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May 7 2022 09:01am
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you clearly don't know what "proof" is. your personal definitions and flawed logic aren't. stop being so obtuse.


If you think my logic is flawed, prove it. Show how it's faulty.
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Why do they have different words with different definitions in our shared language?

Why are the definitions of words important to you guys like 50% of the time. It is like believing in a omnipotent being that knows everything and loves us all creating us in his image and a whole universe for us only to end up hating half of creation, humanity, and our condition, because its not good enough for them and you need to repent.


What are you even on about?

Anyway, I am an atheist if that's what you are asking.
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May 7 2022 09:11am
it is more than obvious that you not only lack the intellectual ability to make a logically coherent argument, but even the ability to comprehend one. that's why i specifically asked:

"do you really think people already forgot how last time we went down that road you ended up corn-cobbing so hard, crying that only YOUR (incorrect) personal definition of murder counted?"

apparently you think that just ignoring how you got owned, and continuing to spam your ignorant takes over and over here, somehow makes your flawed arguments less pathetic, but again, it doesn't work that way.

modern secular societies decided that a woman's right to bodily self-determination is more important than your feelings about strangers' zygotes and fetuses, and that it's not up to the government to legislate people's bodies just to appease some religious zealots. think whatever you like, feel whatever you like, but do yourself a favour and stop pretending like there's some kind of objective truth behind your bigoted views, there simply isn't.



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May 7 2022 09:13am
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modern secular societies decided that a woman's right to bodily self-determination is more important than your feelings about strangers' zygotes and fetuses, and that it's not up to the government to legislate people's bodies


false, modern societies decided abortion is murder

thats why its illegal after the first trimester

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May 7 2022 09:16am
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it is more than obvious that you not only lack the intellectual ability to make a logically coherent argument, but even the ability to comprehend one. that's why i specifically asked:

"do you really think people already forgot how last time we went down that road you ended up corn-cobbing so hard, crying that only YOUR (incorrect) personal definition of murder counted?"

apparently you think that just ignoring how you got owned, and continuing to spam your ignorant takes over and over here, somehow makes your flawed arguments less pathetic, but again, it doesn't work that way.

modern secular societies decided that a woman's right to bodily self-determination is more important than your feelings about strangers' zygotes and fetuses, and that it's not up to the government to legislate people's bodies just to appease some religious zealots. think whatever you like, feel whatever you like, but do yourself a favour and stop pretending like there's some kind of objective truth behind your bigoted views, there simply isn't.

Yes it's indeed my personal definition, however I dont see why we can't all adopt it. The current definition you and your ilk use is unsatisfactory.
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